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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
	surenb@google.com, minchan@kernel.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, hridya@google.com, jannh@google.com,
	kernel-team@android.com, Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Alexey Gladkov <gladkov.alexey@gmail.com>,
	Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Bernd Edlinger <bernd.edlinger@hotmail.de>,
	Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>,
	Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>, Hui Su <sh_def@163.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] procfs/dmabuf: Add /proc/<pid>/task/<tid>/dmabuf_fds
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 12:02:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YBFIMIR2FXoYDd+0@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6b314cf2-99f0-8e63-acc7-edebe2ca97d7@amd.com>

On Wed 27-01-21 11:53:55, Christian König wrote:
[...]
> In general processes are currently not held accountable for memory they
> reference through their file descriptors. DMA-buf is just one special case.

True

> In other words you can currently do something like this
> 
> fd = memfd_create("test", 0);
> while (1)
>     write(fd, buf, 1024);
> 
> and the OOM killer will terminate random processes, but never the one
> holding the memfd reference.

memfd is just shmem under cover, no? And that means that the memory gets
accounted to MM_SHMEMPAGES. But you are right that this in its own
doesn't help much if the fd is shared and the memory stays behind a
killed victim.

But I do agree with you that there are resources which are bound to a
process life time but the oom killer has no idea about those as they are
not accounted on a per process level and/or oom_badness doesn't take
them into consideration.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>, Hui Su <sh_def@163.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>,
	kernel-team@android.com, Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	jannh@google.com, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Bernd Edlinger <bernd.edlinger@hotmail.de>,
	surenb@google.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, minchan@kernel.org,
	Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Alexey Gladkov <gladkov.alexey@gmail.com>,
	hridya@google.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] procfs/dmabuf: Add /proc/<pid>/task/<tid>/dmabuf_fds
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 12:02:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YBFIMIR2FXoYDd+0@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6b314cf2-99f0-8e63-acc7-edebe2ca97d7@amd.com>

On Wed 27-01-21 11:53:55, Christian König wrote:
[...]
> In general processes are currently not held accountable for memory they
> reference through their file descriptors. DMA-buf is just one special case.

True

> In other words you can currently do something like this
> 
> fd = memfd_create("test", 0);
> while (1)
>     write(fd, buf, 1024);
> 
> and the OOM killer will terminate random processes, but never the one
> holding the memfd reference.

memfd is just shmem under cover, no? And that means that the memory gets
accounted to MM_SHMEMPAGES. But you are right that this in its own
doesn't help much if the fd is shared and the memory stays behind a
killed victim.

But I do agree with you that there are resources which are bound to a
process life time but the oom killer has no idea about those as they are
not accounted on a per process level and/or oom_badness doesn't take
them into consideration.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-27 11:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-26 22:51 [PATCH] procfs/dmabuf: Add /proc/<pid>/task/<tid>/dmabuf_fds Kalesh Singh
2021-01-26 22:51 ` Kalesh Singh
2021-01-27  9:05 ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-27  9:05   ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-27 10:53   ` Christian König
2021-01-27 10:53     ` Christian König
2021-01-27 11:02     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-01-27 11:02       ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-27 11:08       ` Christian König
2021-01-27 11:08         ` Christian König
2021-01-27 11:23         ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-27 11:23           ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-27 10:47 ` Jann Horn
2021-01-27 10:47   ` Jann Horn
2021-01-27 10:57   ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-27 10:57     ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-27 11:01     ` Christian König
2021-01-27 11:01       ` Christian König
2021-01-27 11:27       ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-27 11:27         ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-28 10:01       ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-01-28 10:01         ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-01-29 12:18         ` Christian König
2021-01-29 14:13           ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-01-29 14:17             ` Simon Ser
2021-01-29 14:22               ` Christian König
2021-02-03 10:23                 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-03 10:23                   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-27 17:16   ` Kalesh Singh
2021-01-27 17:16     ` Kalesh Singh

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