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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Marcin Wojtas <mw@semihalf.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Grzegorz Jaszczyk <jaz@semihalf.com>,
	Grzegorz Bernacki <gjb@semihalf.com>,
	upstream@semihalf.com,
	Samer El-Haj-Mahmoud <Samer.El-Haj-Mahmoud@arm.com>,
	Jon Nettleton <jon@solid-run.com>,
	Tomasz Nowicki <tn@semihalf.com>,
	rjw@rjwysocki.net, lenb@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [net-next: PATCH v3 5/6] net: mvpp2: enable using phylink with ACPI
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 03:17:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YNPdPlYV5qwnJBdW@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPv3WKfdCwq=AYhARGxfRA92XcZjXYwdOj6_JLP+wOmPV8xxzQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:45:04PM +0200, Marcin Wojtas wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> śr., 23 cze 2021 o 22:37 Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> napisał(a):
> >
> > > +static bool mvpp2_use_acpi_compat_mode(struct fwnode_handle *port_fwnode)
> > > +{
> > > +     if (!is_acpi_node(port_fwnode))
> > > +             return false;
> > > +
> > > +     return (!fwnode_property_present(port_fwnode, "phy-handle") &&
> > > +             !fwnode_property_present(port_fwnode, "managed") &&
> > > +             !fwnode_get_named_child_node(port_fwnode, "fixed-link"));
> >
> > I'm not too sure about this last one. You only use fixed-link when
> > connecting to an Ethernet switch. I doubt anybody will try ACPI and a
> > switch. It has been agreed, ACPI is for simple hardware, and you need
> > to use DT for advanced hardware configurations.
> >
> > What is your use case for fixed-link?
> >
> 
> Regardless of the "simple hardware" definition or whether DSA + ACPI
> feasibility, you can still have e.g. the switch left in "unmanaged"
> mode (or whatever the firmware configures), connected via fixed-link
> to the MAC. The same effect as booting with DT, but not loading the
> DSA/switch driver - the "CPU port" can be used as a normal netdev
> interface.

You can do this, but i would not recommend it. Without having STP,
your network is going to be vulnerable to broadcast storms killing
your network.

> I'd also prefer to have all 3 major interface types supported in
> phylink, explicitly checked in the driver - it has not been supported
> yet, but can be in the future, so let's have them covered in the
> backward compatibility check.

Maybe i'm not understanding this correctly, but isn't this condition
enforcing there must be a fixed link in order to use the new ACPI
binding? But i expect most boards never need a fixed-link, it is
optional after all.

	 Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-24  1:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-21 17:30 [net-next: PATCH v3 0/6] ACPI MDIO support for Marvell controllers Marcin Wojtas
2021-06-21 17:30 ` [net-next: PATCH v3 1/6] Documentation: ACPI: DSD: describe additional MAC configuration Marcin Wojtas
2021-06-23 20:18   ` Andrew Lunn
2021-06-23 21:00     ` Marcin Wojtas
2021-06-23 21:36       ` Andrew Lunn
2021-06-23 21:42     ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-06-21 17:30 ` [net-next: PATCH v3 2/6] net: mdiobus: Introduce fwnode_mdbiobus_register() Marcin Wojtas
2021-06-23 20:22   ` Andrew Lunn
2021-06-23 22:10     ` Marcin Wojtas
2021-06-24 11:10       ` Marcin Wojtas
2021-06-21 17:30 ` [net-next: PATCH v3 3/6] net/fsl: switch to fwnode_mdiobus_register Marcin Wojtas
2021-06-23 20:24   ` Andrew Lunn
2021-06-21 17:30 ` [net-next: PATCH v3 4/6] net: mvmdio: add ACPI support Marcin Wojtas
2021-06-23 20:28   ` Andrew Lunn
2021-06-23 21:58     ` Marcin Wojtas
2021-06-24  1:24       ` Andrew Lunn
2021-06-21 17:30 ` [net-next: PATCH v3 5/6] net: mvpp2: enable using phylink with ACPI Marcin Wojtas
2021-06-23 20:37   ` Andrew Lunn
2021-06-23 21:45     ` Marcin Wojtas
2021-06-24  1:17       ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2021-06-21 17:30 ` [net-next: PATCH v3 6/6] net: mvpp2: remove unused 'has_phy' field Marcin Wojtas
2021-06-23 11:56 ` [net-next: PATCH v3 0/6] ACPI MDIO support for Marvell controllers Marcin Wojtas

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