From: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
To: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] iommu: Enable non-strict DMA on QCom SD/MMC
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 10:08:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YOaymBHc4g2cIfRn@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=W=HmgH3O3z+nThWL6U+X4Oh37COe-uTzVB9SanP2n86w@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 01:00:13PM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
> a) Nothing is inherently broken with my current approach.
>
> b) My current approach doesn't make anybody terribly upset even if
> nobody is totally in love with it.
Well, no, sorry :)
I don't think it is a good idea to allow drivers to opt-out of the
strict-setting. This is a platform or user decision, and the driver
should accept whatever it gets.
So the real question is still why strict is the default setting and how
to change that. Or document for the users that want performance how to
change the setting, so that they can decide.
Regards,
Joerg
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From: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
To: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Cc: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@somainline.org>,
Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
Rajat Jain <rajatja@google.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Rob Clark <robdclark@chromium.org>,
Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
quic_c_gdjako@quicinc.com,
Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Veerabhadrarao Badiganti <vbadigan@codeaurora.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@chromium.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
Linux MMC List <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"list@263.net:IOMMU DRIVERS <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
" <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] iommu: Enable non-strict DMA on QCom SD/MMC
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 10:08:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YOaymBHc4g2cIfRn@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=W=HmgH3O3z+nThWL6U+X4Oh37COe-uTzVB9SanP2n86w@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 01:00:13PM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
> a) Nothing is inherently broken with my current approach.
>
> b) My current approach doesn't make anybody terribly upset even if
> nobody is totally in love with it.
Well, no, sorry :)
I don't think it is a good idea to allow drivers to opt-out of the
strict-setting. This is a platform or user decision, and the driver
should accept whatever it gets.
So the real question is still why strict is the default setting and how
to change that. Or document for the users that want performance how to
change the setting, so that they can decide.
Regards,
Joerg
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From: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
To: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Cc: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@somainline.org>,
Jordan Crouse <jordan@cosmicpenguin.net>,
Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
Rajat Jain <rajatja@google.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Rob Clark <robdclark@chromium.org>,
Sai Prakash Ranjan <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org>,
Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
quic_c_gdjako@quicinc.com,
Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Veerabhadrarao Badiganti <vbadigan@codeaurora.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>,
Nicolin Chen <nicoleotsuka@gmail.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@chromium.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
Linux MMC List <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"list@263.net:IOMMU DRIVERS <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
" <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] iommu: Enable non-strict DMA on QCom SD/MMC
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 10:08:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YOaymBHc4g2cIfRn@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=W=HmgH3O3z+nThWL6U+X4Oh37COe-uTzVB9SanP2n86w@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 01:00:13PM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
> a) Nothing is inherently broken with my current approach.
>
> b) My current approach doesn't make anybody terribly upset even if
> nobody is totally in love with it.
Well, no, sorry :)
I don't think it is a good idea to allow drivers to opt-out of the
strict-setting. This is a platform or user decision, and the driver
should accept whatever it gets.
So the real question is still why strict is the default setting and how
to change that. Or document for the users that want performance how to
change the setting, so that they can decide.
Regards,
Joerg
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linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-07-08 8:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-24 17:17 [PATCH v2 0/3] iommu: Enable non-strict DMA on QCom SD/MMC Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 17:17 ` Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 17:17 ` Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] iommu: Add per-domain strictness and combine with the global default Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 17:17 ` Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] iommu/arm-smmu: Check for strictness after calling impl->init_context() Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 17:17 ` Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 17:17 ` Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 17:17 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] mmc: sdhci-msm: Request non-strict IOMMU mode Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 17:17 ` Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 17:17 ` Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 23:05 ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-24 23:05 ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-24 23:05 ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-25 13:18 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] iommu: Enable non-strict DMA on QCom SD/MMC Joerg Roedel
2021-06-25 13:18 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-06-25 13:18 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-06-25 14:42 ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-25 14:42 ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-25 14:42 ` Doug Anderson
2021-07-07 20:00 ` Doug Anderson
2021-07-07 20:00 ` Doug Anderson
2021-07-07 20:00 ` Doug Anderson
2021-07-08 8:08 ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
2021-07-08 8:08 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-07-08 8:08 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-07-08 14:36 ` Doug Anderson
2021-07-08 14:36 ` Doug Anderson
2021-07-08 14:36 ` Doug Anderson
2021-07-13 18:07 ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-13 18:07 ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-13 18:07 ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-14 15:14 ` Doug Anderson
2021-07-14 15:14 ` Doug Anderson
2021-07-14 15:14 ` Doug Anderson
2021-08-03 0:09 ` Rajat Jain
2021-08-03 0:09 ` Rajat Jain
2021-08-03 0:09 ` Rajat Jain via iommu
2021-08-03 0:34 ` Rajat Jain
2021-08-03 0:34 ` Rajat Jain
2021-08-03 0:34 ` Rajat Jain via iommu
2021-08-03 8:19 ` Robin Murphy
2021-08-03 8:19 ` Robin Murphy
2021-08-03 8:19 ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-09 13:56 ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-09 13:56 ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-09 13:56 ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-14 10:15 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-07-14 10:15 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-07-14 10:15 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-07-14 10:29 ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-14 10:29 ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-14 10:29 ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-14 10:48 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-07-14 10:48 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-07-14 10:48 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-07-09 19:21 ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-09 19:21 ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-09 19:21 ` Robin Murphy
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