meta-phosphor: enable `allow-root-login`?

meta-phosphor: enable `allow-root-login`?

[Patrick Williams]

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Hello,

Looking for opinions, especially from security minded individuals...

In many of our `local.conf.sample` files we enable "debug-tweaks" but for
production builds this is probably not a good idea.  I had it turned off on a
production build and ran into a case where we could not log in as root on SSH.
We debugged this down to missing the 'priv-admin' group for root, which is
typically enabled in `phosphor-rootfs-postcommands.bbclass` when either
"debug-tweaks" or "allow-root-login" is enabled.

I am currently enabling this IMAGE_FEATURE in meta-facebook to avoid having this
happen again.  Is there any reason why we wouldn't want to enable it by default
in meta-phosphor?  There isn't really full support for non-root users in the
base systems anyhow, so is there anyone that wouldn't want "allow-root-login"
enabled by default?

I'm fine leaving this in meta-facebook, but I'm trying to prevent someone else
from having the same issue for what seems like a default case presently.

1. https://github.com/openbmc/openbmc/blob/master/meta-phosphor/classes/phosphor-rootfs-postcommands.bbclass#L10

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Patrick Williams

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Re: meta-phosphor: enable `allow-root-login`?

[Johnathan Mantey]

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Patrick....

On 12/30/21 05:52, Patrick Williams wrote:
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> 
> I am currently enabling this IMAGE_FEATURE in meta-facebook to avoid having this
> happen again.  Is there any reason why we wouldn't want to enable it by default
> in meta-phosphor?  There isn't really full support for non-root users in the
> base systems anyhow, so is there anyone that wouldn't want "allow-root-login"
> enabled by default?

Intel explicitly requires root login to be disabled for production 
releases. Especially since the default password is a known quantity.

The Intel security audit group enforced blocking a default user for the 
S2600 WF/BNP/STP series of servers. All user accounts are created using 
local IPMI commands.

Intel will prefer the existing behavior remain.

> 
> I'm fine leaving this in meta-facebook, but I'm trying to prevent someone else
> from having the same issue for what seems like a default case presently.
> 
> 1. https://github.com/openbmc/openbmc/blob/master/meta-phosphor/classes/phosphor-rootfs-postcommands.bbclass#L10
> 

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Contributing to Technology Innovation since 1992
Phone: (503) 712-6764
Email: johnathanx.mantey@intel.com <mailto:johnathanx.mantey@intel.com>


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Re: meta-phosphor: enable `allow-root-login`?

[Patrick Williams]

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On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 07:32:06AM -0800, Johnathan Mantey wrote:
> Patrick....
> 
> On 12/30/21 05:52, Patrick Williams wrote:

> > I am currently enabling this IMAGE_FEATURE in meta-facebook to avoid having this
> > happen again.  Is there any reason why we wouldn't want to enable it by default
> > in meta-phosphor?  There isn't really full support for non-root users in the
> > base systems anyhow, so is there anyone that wouldn't want "allow-root-login"
> > enabled by default?
> 
> Intel explicitly requires root login to be disabled for production 
> releases. Especially since the default password is a known quantity.
> 
> The Intel security audit group enforced blocking a default user for the 
> S2600 WF/BNP/STP series of servers. All user accounts are created using 
> local IPMI commands.

Is this currently able to be done with all upstream functionality or something
that only works in your own forks?

> Intel will prefer the existing behavior remain.

It seems to me that the current behavior is broken for typical cases using
currently upstreamed functionality and so that's why I'm suggesting that
meta-phosphor be "fixed".  It'd be pretty easy to IMAGE_FEATURE:remove this
for meta-intel-bmc, right?

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Patrick Williams

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Re: meta-phosphor: enable `allow-root-login`?

[Ed Tanous]

On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 5:52 AM Patrick Williams <patrick@stwcx.xyz> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Looking for opinions, especially from security minded individuals...
>
> In many of our `local.conf.sample` files we enable "debug-tweaks" but for
> production builds this is probably not a good idea.  I had it turned off on a
> production build and ran into a case where we could not log in as root on SSH.
> We debugged this down to missing the 'priv-admin' group for root, which is
> typically enabled in `phosphor-rootfs-postcommands.bbclass` when either
> "debug-tweaks" or "allow-root-login" is enabled.
>
> I am currently enabling this IMAGE_FEATURE in meta-facebook to avoid having this
> happen again.  Is there any reason why we wouldn't want to enable it by default
> in meta-phosphor?  There isn't really full support for non-root users in the
> base systems anyhow, so is there anyone that wouldn't want "allow-root-login"
> enabled by default?

Doesn't this directly violate the principle of least privilege?  I
wouldn't expect root to be usable to outside users, given that it
gives significantly more permissions than any outside user should have
access to.  My understanding was that priv-admin was supposed to be
the privilege level for "all permissions for things that an external
user should be able to do".  Is that not working for your use case?
It'd be interesting to understand what permissions priv-admin is
missing.  I don't really think giving out root to external users is a
good idea in general.

>
> I'm fine leaving this in meta-facebook, but I'm trying to prevent someone else
> from having the same issue for what seems like a default case presently.
>
> 1. https://github.com/openbmc/openbmc/blob/master/meta-phosphor/classes/phosphor-rootfs-postcommands.bbclass#L10
>
> --
> Patrick Williams

Re: meta-phosphor: enable `allow-root-login`?

[Johnathan Mantey]

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On 1/4/22 10:26, Patrick Williams wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 07:32:06AM -0800, Johnathan Mantey wrote:
>> Patrick....
>>
>> On 12/30/21 05:52, Patrick Williams wrote:
>>> I am currently enabling this IMAGE_FEATURE in meta-facebook to avoid having this
>>> happen again.  Is there any reason why we wouldn't want to enable it by default
>>> in meta-phosphor?  There isn't really full support for non-root users in the
>>> base systems anyhow, so is there anyone that wouldn't want "allow-root-login"
>>> enabled by default?
>> Intel explicitly requires root login to be disabled for production
>> releases. Especially since the default password is a known quantity.
>>
>> The Intel security audit group enforced blocking a default user for the
>> S2600 WF/BNP/STP series of servers. All user accounts are created using
>> local IPMI commands.
> Is this currently able to be done with all upstream functionality or something
> that only works in your own forks?

As a developer for Intel I have to explicitly add 'debug-tweaks' back 
into our bitbake config. I've not dug into who made the decision, and 
which layer of the build process enforced it.

>
>> Intel will prefer the existing behavior remain.
> It seems to me that the current behavior is broken for typical cases using
> currently upstreamed functionality and so that's why I'm suggesting that
> meta-phosphor be "fixed".  It'd be pretty easy to IMAGE_FEATURE:remove this
> for meta-intel-bmc, right?
>

-- 
Johnathan Mantey
Senior Software Engineer
*azad te**chnology partners*
Contributing to Technology Innovation since 1992
Phone: (503) 712-6764
Email: johnathanx.mantey@intel.com


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