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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Walt Drummond <walt@drummond.us>
Cc: aacraid@microsemi.com, anna.schumaker@netapp.com, arnd@arndb.de,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/8] signals: Support more than 64 signals
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 18:48:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YdNE6UXRT02135Pd@zeniv-ca.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220103181956.983342-1-walt@drummond.us>

On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 10:19:48AM -0800, Walt Drummond wrote:
> This patch set expands the number of signals in Linux beyond the
> current cap of 64.  It sets a new cap at the somewhat arbitrary limit
> of 1024 signals, both because it’s what GLibc and MUSL support and
> because many architectures pad sigset_t or ucontext_t in the kernel to
> this cap.  This limit is not fixed and can be further expanded within
> reason.

Could you explain the point of the entire exercise?  Why do we need more
rt signals in the first place?

glibc has quite a bit of utterly pointless future-proofing.  So "they
allow more" is not a good reason - not without a plausible use-case,
at least.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Walt Drummond <walt@drummond.us>
Cc: aacraid@microsemi.com, anna.schumaker@netapp.com, arnd@arndb.de,
	bsegall@google.com, bp@alien8.de, chuck.lever@oracle.com,
	bristot@redhat.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	dwmw2@infradead.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	dinguyen@kernel.org, geert@linux-m68k.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, hpa@zytor.com, idryomov@gmail.com,
	mingo@redhat.com, yzaikin@google.com, ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru,
	jejb@linux.ibm.com, jmorris@namei.org, bfields@fieldses.org,
	jlayton@kernel.org, jirislaby@kernel.org,
	john.johansen@canonical.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	keescook@chromium.org, mcgrof@kernel.org,
	martin.petersen@oracle.com, mattst88@gmail.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	oleg@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	rth@twiddle.net, richard@nod.at, serge@hallyn.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, tglx@linu
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/8] signals: Support more than 64 signals
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 18:48:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YdNE6UXRT02135Pd@zeniv-ca.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220103181956.983342-1-walt@drummond.us>

On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 10:19:48AM -0800, Walt Drummond wrote:
> This patch set expands the number of signals in Linux beyond the
> current cap of 64.  It sets a new cap at the somewhat arbitrary limit
> of 1024 signals, both because it’s what GLibc and MUSL support and
> because many architectures pad sigset_t or ucontext_t in the kernel to
> this cap.  This limit is not fixed and can be further expanded within
> reason.

Could you explain the point of the entire exercise?  Why do we need more
rt signals in the first place?

glibc has quite a bit of utterly pointless future-proofing.  So "they
allow more" is not a good reason - not without a plausible use-case,
at least.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Walt Drummond <walt@drummond.us>
Cc: aacraid@microsemi.com, anna.schumaker@netapp.com, arnd@arndb.de,
	bsegall@google.com, bp@alien8.de, chuck.lever@oracle.com,
	bristot@redhat.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	dwmw2@infradead.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	dinguyen@kernel.org, geert@linux-m68k.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, hpa@zytor.com, idryomov@gmail.com,
	mingo@redhat.com, yzaikin@google.com, ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru,
	jejb@linux.ibm.com, jmorris@namei.org, bfields@fieldses.org,
	jlayton@kernel.org, jirislaby@kernel.org,
	john.johansen@canonical.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	keescook@chromium.org, mcgrof@kernel.org,
	martin.petersen@oracle.com, mattst88@gmail.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	oleg@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	rth@twiddle.net, richard@nod.at, serge@hallyn.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/8] signals: Support more than 64 signals
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 18:48:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YdNE6UXRT02135Pd@zeniv-ca.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220103181956.983342-1-walt@drummond.us>

On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 10:19:48AM -0800, Walt Drummond wrote:
> This patch set expands the number of signals in Linux beyond the
> current cap of 64.  It sets a new cap at the somewhat arbitrary limit
> of 1024 signals, both because it’s what GLibc and MUSL support and
> because many architectures pad sigset_t or ucontext_t in the kernel to
> this cap.  This limit is not fixed and can be further expanded within
> reason.

Could you explain the point of the entire exercise?  Why do we need more
rt signals in the first place?

glibc has quite a bit of utterly pointless future-proofing.  So "they
allow more" is not a good reason - not without a plausible use-case,
at least.

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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-03 18:19 [RFC PATCH 0/8] signals: Support more than 64 signals Walt Drummond
2022-01-03 18:19 ` Walt Drummond
2022-01-03 18:19 ` Walt Drummond
2022-01-03 18:19 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] signals: Make the real-time signal system calls accept different sized sigset_t from user space Walt Drummond
2022-01-03 18:19 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] signals: Use a helper function to test if a signal is a real-time signal Walt Drummond
2022-01-03 18:19 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] signals: Remove sigmask() macro Walt Drummond
2022-01-03 18:19   ` Walt Drummond
2022-01-03 18:19   ` Walt Drummond
2022-01-03 18:19 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] signals: Better support cases where _NSIG_WORDS is greater than 2 Walt Drummond
2022-01-03 18:19 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] signals: Round up _NSIG_WORDS Walt Drummond
2022-01-03 18:19 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] signals: Add signal debugging Walt Drummond
2022-01-03 18:19 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] signals: Support BSD VSTATUS, KERNINFO and SIGINFO Walt Drummond
2022-01-04  7:27   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-07 21:48   ` Arseny Maslennikov
2022-01-07 21:52     ` Walt Drummond
2022-01-07 22:39       ` Arseny Maslennikov
2022-01-08 14:38   ` Arseny Maslennikov
2022-01-03 18:48 ` Al Viro [this message]
2022-01-03 18:48   ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] signals: Support more than 64 signals Al Viro
2022-01-03 18:48   ` Al Viro
2022-01-04  1:00   ` Walt Drummond
2022-01-04  1:00     ` Walt Drummond
2022-01-04  1:00     ` Walt Drummond
2022-01-04  1:16     ` Al Viro
2022-01-04  1:16       ` Al Viro
2022-01-04  1:16       ` Al Viro
2022-01-04  1:49       ` Al Viro
2022-01-04  1:49         ` Al Viro
2022-01-04  1:49         ` Al Viro
2022-01-04 18:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-04 18:00   ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-04 18:00   ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-04 20:52   ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-04 20:52     ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-04 20:52     ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-04 21:33     ` Walt Drummond
2022-01-04 21:33       ` Walt Drummond
2022-01-04 21:33       ` Walt Drummond
2022-01-04 22:05     ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-04 22:05       ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-04 22:05       ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-04 22:23       ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-04 22:23         ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-04 22:23         ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-04 22:31         ` Walt Drummond
2022-01-04 22:31           ` Walt Drummond
2022-01-04 22:31           ` Walt Drummond
2022-01-07 19:29           ` Arseny Maslennikov
2022-01-07 19:29             ` Arseny Maslennikov
2022-01-07 19:29             ` Arseny Maslennikov
2022-05-19 12:27             ` Pavel Machek
2022-05-19 12:27               ` Pavel Machek
2022-05-19 12:27               ` Pavel Machek
2022-01-07 19:19     ` Arseny Maslennikov
2022-01-07 19:19       ` Arseny Maslennikov
2022-01-07 19:19       ` Arseny Maslennikov

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