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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Harry Austen <harryausten@hotmail.co.uk>
Cc: jaegeuk@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [RFC PATCH] f2fs: disallow setting unsettable file attributes
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 19:34:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yfg53VflpMY3eDB4@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM6PR10MB2838F71E6117BFFAD3FD5A69FA249@AM6PR10MB2838.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 05:21:39PM +0000, Harry Austen wrote:
> After Eric kindly pointed out the reasons why my initial kernel patch
> attempt was incorrect
> (https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Ye79OLCFLR3H+GnY@gmail.com/), I had a
> rethink as to if the current implementation could be improved in any
> way.
> 
> I wondered whether something along the lines of the following patch
> would be more acceptable? It is intentionally verbose in order to
> demonstrate the concept as this is intended purely as an RFC.
> 
> What if SETFLAGS returned EOPNOTSUPP if userspace is actually trying to
> *set* one of the unsettable flags (i.e. it isn't set already)? I believe
> this would therefore not break chattr(1), as flags that are retrieved
> from GETFLAGS can still be passed into SETFLAGS without error.
> 
> If there is some other ABI compatibility that needs to be maintained
> that is broken by this, then please let me know. Also, I have not yet
> determined whether there are any concerns with calling f2fs_fileattr_get
> from inside f2fs_fileattr_set, e.g. speed/performance? so any thoughts
> would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Harry Austen <harryausten@hotmail.co.uk>
> ---
>  fs/f2fs/file.c | 14 ++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+)

This makes sense, but this ioctl isn't f2fs-specific; it's implemented by other
filesystems, most notably ext2/ext4 where it originated.  f2fs shouldn't have
different behavior for the same ioctl.  If you want to change this ioctl, you
need to start a wider discussion (including the linux-fsdevel and linux-ext4
mailing lists) where the change is proposed for all filesystems.

- Eric


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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Harry Austen <harryausten@hotmail.co.uk>
Cc: linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jaegeuk@kernel.org,
	chao@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] f2fs: disallow setting unsettable file attributes
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 19:34:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yfg53VflpMY3eDB4@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM6PR10MB2838F71E6117BFFAD3FD5A69FA249@AM6PR10MB2838.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 05:21:39PM +0000, Harry Austen wrote:
> After Eric kindly pointed out the reasons why my initial kernel patch
> attempt was incorrect
> (https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Ye79OLCFLR3H+GnY@gmail.com/), I had a
> rethink as to if the current implementation could be improved in any
> way.
> 
> I wondered whether something along the lines of the following patch
> would be more acceptable? It is intentionally verbose in order to
> demonstrate the concept as this is intended purely as an RFC.
> 
> What if SETFLAGS returned EOPNOTSUPP if userspace is actually trying to
> *set* one of the unsettable flags (i.e. it isn't set already)? I believe
> this would therefore not break chattr(1), as flags that are retrieved
> from GETFLAGS can still be passed into SETFLAGS without error.
> 
> If there is some other ABI compatibility that needs to be maintained
> that is broken by this, then please let me know. Also, I have not yet
> determined whether there are any concerns with calling f2fs_fileattr_get
> from inside f2fs_fileattr_set, e.g. speed/performance? so any thoughts
> would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Harry Austen <harryausten@hotmail.co.uk>
> ---
>  fs/f2fs/file.c | 14 ++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+)

This makes sense, but this ioctl isn't f2fs-specific; it's implemented by other
filesystems, most notably ext2/ext4 where it originated.  f2fs shouldn't have
different behavior for the same ioctl.  If you want to change this ioctl, you
need to start a wider discussion (including the linux-fsdevel and linux-ext4
mailing lists) where the change is proposed for all filesystems.

- Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-31 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-30 17:21 [f2fs-dev] [RFC PATCH] f2fs: disallow setting unsettable file attributes Harry Austen
2022-01-30 17:21 ` Harry Austen
2022-01-31 19:34 ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2022-01-31 19:34   ` Eric Biggers

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