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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: "Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"Alexandre Belloni" <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	"Alvin Šipraga" <alsi@bang-olufsen.dk>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	"Claudiu Manoil" <claudiu.manoil@nxp.com>,
	"Daniel Scally" <djrscally@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"DENG Qingfang" <dqfext@gmail.com>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"George McCollister" <george.mccollister@gmail.com>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Hauke Mehrtens" <hauke@hauke-m.de>,
	"Heikki Krogerus" <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Kurt Kanzenbach" <kurt@linutronix.de>,
	"Landen Chao" <Landen.Chao@mediatek.com>,
	"Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	Marek =?iso-8859-1?Q?Beh=FAn?= <kabel@kernel.org>,
	"Matthias Brugger" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Sakari Ailus" <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	"Sean Wang" <sean.wang@mediatek.com>,
	UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com,
	"Vivien Didelot" <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	"Woojung Huh" <woojung.huh@microchip.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/6] net: dsa: always use phylink
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 21:59:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YtHVLGR0RQ6dWuBS@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220715171719.niqcrklpk4ittfvl@skbuf>

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 08:17:19PM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> Hi Russell,
> 
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 05:00:59PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > This is a re-hash of the previous RFC series, this time using the
> > suggestion from Vladimir to create a swnode based fixed-link
> > specifier.
> > 
> > Most of the changes are to DSA and phylink code from the previous
> > series. I've tested on my Clearfog (which has just one Marvell DSA
> > switch) and it works there - also tested without the fixed-link
> > specified in DT.
> 
> I had some comments I wanted to leave on the previous RFC patch set
> (which in turn is essentially identical to this one, hence they still
> apply), but I held off because I thought you were waiting for some
> feedback from Andrew. Has something changed?

I've got fed up of waiting for very little feedback on patches I send.
Jakub was fully prepared to apply my v2 RFC patches after - as he saw
it - everyone that was likely to respond had responded.

The only thing that delayed them was your eventual comments about
re-working how it was being done. Yet again, posting the RFC series
created very little in the way of feedback. I'm getting to the point
of thinking its a waste of time posting RFC patches - it's counter
productive. RFC means "request for comments" but it seems that many
interpret it as "I can ignore it".

So, I'm saying sod it now. I'm posting patches that I create without
RFC tags. That means reviewers need to be on the ball if they want to
comment _before_ they get merged into net-next. Posting RFC is a total
waste of time, IMHO.

You've proven it as well with some of your comments on this series,
which I'll address in a separate reply.

-- 
RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!

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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: "Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"Alexandre Belloni" <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	"Alvin Šipraga" <alsi@bang-olufsen.dk>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	"Claudiu Manoil" <claudiu.manoil@nxp.com>,
	"Daniel Scally" <djrscally@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"DENG Qingfang" <dqfext@gmail.com>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"George McCollister" <george.mccollister@gmail.com>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Hauke Mehrtens" <hauke@hauke-m.de>,
	"Heikki Krogerus" <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Kurt Kanzenbach" <kurt@linutronix.de>,
	"Landen Chao" <Landen.Chao@mediatek.com>,
	"Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	Marek =?iso-8859-1?Q?Beh=FAn?= <kabel@kernel.org>,
	"Matthias Brugger" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Sakari Ailus" <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	"Sean Wang" <sean.wang@mediatek.com>,
	UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com,
	"Vivien Didelot" <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	"Woojung Huh" <woojung.huh@microchip.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/6] net: dsa: always use phylink
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 21:59:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YtHVLGR0RQ6dWuBS@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220715171719.niqcrklpk4ittfvl@skbuf>

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 08:17:19PM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> Hi Russell,
> 
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 05:00:59PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > This is a re-hash of the previous RFC series, this time using the
> > suggestion from Vladimir to create a swnode based fixed-link
> > specifier.
> > 
> > Most of the changes are to DSA and phylink code from the previous
> > series. I've tested on my Clearfog (which has just one Marvell DSA
> > switch) and it works there - also tested without the fixed-link
> > specified in DT.
> 
> I had some comments I wanted to leave on the previous RFC patch set
> (which in turn is essentially identical to this one, hence they still
> apply), but I held off because I thought you were waiting for some
> feedback from Andrew. Has something changed?

I've got fed up of waiting for very little feedback on patches I send.
Jakub was fully prepared to apply my v2 RFC patches after - as he saw
it - everyone that was likely to respond had responded.

The only thing that delayed them was your eventual comments about
re-working how it was being done. Yet again, posting the RFC series
created very little in the way of feedback. I'm getting to the point
of thinking its a waste of time posting RFC patches - it's counter
productive. RFC means "request for comments" but it seems that many
interpret it as "I can ignore it".

So, I'm saying sod it now. I'm posting patches that I create without
RFC tags. That means reviewers need to be on the ball if they want to
comment _before_ they get merged into net-next. Posting RFC is a total
waste of time, IMHO.

You've proven it as well with some of your comments on this series,
which I'll address in a separate reply.

-- 
RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!

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2022-07-15 16:00 [PATCH net-next 0/6] net: dsa: always use phylink Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 16:00 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 16:01 ` [PATCH net-next 1/6] net: phylink: split out and export interface to caps translation Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 16:01   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 16:01 ` [PATCH net-next 2/6] software node: allow named software node to be created Russell King
2022-07-15 16:01   ` Russell King
2022-07-15 19:57   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-15 19:57     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-15 20:17     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-15 20:17       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-15 20:33       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-15 20:33         ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-15 20:48         ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-15 20:48           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-18 12:29           ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 12:29             ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 13:27             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 13:27               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 18:43               ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 18:43                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 18:53                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 18:53                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 19:14                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 19:14                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 19:24                     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 19:24                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 20:39                       ` Marek Behún
2022-07-18 20:39                         ` Marek Behún
2022-07-18 20:48                         ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 20:48                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-19  7:18                           ` Marek Behún
2022-07-19  7:18                             ` Marek Behún
2022-07-29 12:08                             ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-29 12:08                               ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 19:11                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 19:11                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 20:07                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 20:07                     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 20:38                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 20:38                       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-19  8:50                       ` Sakari Ailus
2022-07-19  8:50                         ` Sakari Ailus
2022-07-20 22:56                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-20 22:56                           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-22  6:21                           ` Sakari Ailus
2022-07-22  6:21                             ` Sakari Ailus
2022-07-18 20:42                   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-07-18 20:42                     ` Andrew Lunn
2022-07-15 16:01 ` [PATCH net-next 3/6] net: dsa: add support for retrieving the interface mode Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 16:01   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 17:24   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-15 17:24     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-15 21:31     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 21:31       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 22:23       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-15 22:23         ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-15 22:57         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 22:57           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-16 10:57           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-16 10:57             ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-16 11:13             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-16 11:13               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-16 12:36               ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-16 12:36                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-18  8:48                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18  8:48                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-20 22:44                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-20 22:44                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-21 13:46                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-21 13:46                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-21 14:46                       ` Andrew Lunn
2022-07-21 14:46                         ` Andrew Lunn
2022-07-21 14:54                       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-21 14:54                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-21 15:15                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-21 15:15                           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-21 17:21                           ` Marek Behún
2022-07-21 17:21                             ` Marek Behún
2022-07-21 18:15                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-21 18:15                               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-21 18:22                             ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-21 18:22                               ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-21 21:14                               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-21 21:14                                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-21 21:36                                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-21 21:36                                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-22  8:28                                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-22  8:28                                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-22 10:52                                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-22 10:52                                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-22 11:44                                       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-22 11:44                                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-22 12:14                                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-22 12:14                                           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-22 12:46                                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-22 12:46                                           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-22 13:16                                           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-22 13:16                                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-22 16:56                                             ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-22 16:56                                               ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-22 21:20                                               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-22 21:20                                                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-22 21:53                                                 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-07-22 21:53                                                   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-07-22 22:35                                                 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-07-22 22:35                                                   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-07-22 22:39                                                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-22 22:39                                                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-23  7:12                                                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-23  7:12                                                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-23 13:44                                                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-23 13:44                                                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-25 10:11                                                       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-25 10:11                                                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-23 17:26                                                   ` Marek Behún
2022-07-23 17:26                                                     ` Marek Behún
2022-07-24 17:39                                                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-24 17:39                                                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-22 13:20                                         ` Andrew Lunn
2022-07-22 13:20                                           ` Andrew Lunn
2022-07-22 12:59                               ` Marek Behún
2022-07-22 12:59                                 ` Marek Behún
2022-07-22 13:23                                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-22 13:23                                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-22 14:19                                   ` Marek Behún
2022-07-22 14:19                                     ` Marek Behún
2022-07-15 16:01 ` [PATCH net-next 4/6] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: report the default interface mode for the port Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 16:01   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 16:01 ` [PATCH net-next 5/6] net: dsa: use swnode fixed-link if using default params Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 16:01   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 20:11   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-15 20:11     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-15 21:36     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 21:36       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 18:59       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 18:59         ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 19:13         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 19:13           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 20:08           ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-18 20:08             ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-07-15 16:01 ` [PATCH net-next 6/6] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: remove handling for DSA and CPU ports Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 16:01   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 17:17 ` [PATCH net-next 0/6] net: dsa: always use phylink Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-15 17:17   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-15 20:59   ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2022-07-15 20:59     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-15 23:03     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-07-15 23:03       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-07-16 11:15       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-16 11:15         ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-16 11:43         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-16 11:43           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-16 13:13           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-16 13:13             ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-18  8:53             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18  8:53               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 12:45               ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-18 12:45                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-18 13:02                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 13:02                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-07-18 14:25                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-18 14:25                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-16 23:44         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-07-16 23:44           ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-07-27  9:00 ` Marek Behún
2022-07-27  9:00   ` Marek Behún
2022-07-27 13:38   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-27 13:38     ` Vladimir Oltean

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