From: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
aeh@meta.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, jhs@mojatatu.com, kernel-team@meta.com,
Erik Lundgren <elundgren@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lockdep: Speed up lockdep_unregister_key() with expedited RCU synchronization
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2025 09:48:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z+rHYq0ItKiyshMY@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <67e44a9f.050a0220.31c403.3ad3@mx.google.com>
Hello Boqun, Waimn
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 11:42:37AM -0700, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 10:10:28AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 01:02:12PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> [...]
> > > > > > Thinking about it more, doing it in a lockless way is probably a good
> > > > > > idea.
> > > > > >
> > > > > If we are using hazard pointer for synchronization, should we also take off
> > > > > "_rcu" from the list iteration/insertion/deletion macros to avoid the
> > > > > confusion that RCU is being used?
> > > > >
> > > > We can, but we probably want to introduce a new set of API with suffix
> > > > "_lockless" or something because they will still need a lockless fashion
> > > > similar to RCU list iteration/insertion/deletion.
> > >
> > > The lockless part is just the iteration of the list. Insertion and deletion
> > > is protected by lockdep_lock().
> > >
> > > The current hlist_*_rcu() macros are doing the right things for lockless use
> > > case too. We can either document that RCU is not being used or have some
> > > _lockless helpers that just call the _rcu equivalent.
> >
> > We used to have _lockless helper, but we got rid of them. Not necessarily
> > meaning that we should not add them back in, but... ;-)
> >
>
> I will probably go with using *_rcu() first with some comments, if this
> "hazard pointers for hash table" is a good idea in other places, we can
> add *_hazptr() or pick a better name then.
I am trying to figure out what are the next steps to get this issue
solve.
Would you mind help me to understand what _rcu() fuction you are
suggesting and what will it replace?
Thank you,
--breno
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-31 16:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-21 9:30 [PATCH] lockdep: Speed up lockdep_unregister_key() with expedited RCU synchronization Breno Leitao
2025-03-21 10:37 ` Eric Dumazet
2025-03-21 14:22 ` Breno Leitao
2025-03-24 12:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-24 12:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2025-03-24 12:24 ` Eric Dumazet
2025-03-24 19:21 ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-24 19:30 ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-25 0:47 ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-25 1:56 ` Waiman Long
2025-03-25 3:41 ` Boqun Feng
[not found] ` <934d794b-7ebc-422c-b4fe-3e658a2e5e7a@redhat.com>
2025-03-25 14:57 ` Waiman Long
2025-03-25 18:45 ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-25 19:23 ` Waiman Long
2025-03-25 19:42 ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-25 23:20 ` Waiman Long
2025-03-26 5:25 ` Boqun Feng
[not found] ` <df237702-55c3-466b-b51e-f3fe46ae03ba@redhat.com>
2025-03-26 16:40 ` Waiman Long
2025-03-26 16:47 ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-26 17:02 ` Waiman Long
2025-03-26 17:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-26 18:42 ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-26 21:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-31 16:48 ` Breno Leitao [this message]
2025-03-31 17:34 ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-31 17:26 ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-31 17:33 ` Waiman Long
2025-03-31 18:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-31 18:57 ` Waiman Long
2025-03-31 21:21 ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-31 21:47 ` Waiman Long
2025-03-31 17:42 ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-09 10:00 ` Breno Leitao
2025-07-09 13:57 ` Waiman Long
2025-07-09 14:57 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-19 17:40 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Breno Leitao
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