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From: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	Daniel Mentz <danielmentz@google.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement Runtime/System Sleep ops
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 17:53:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-GcHNeDSX4Ttdae@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250321153034.GN126678@ziepe.ca>

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 12:30:34PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 02:44:09PM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> 
> > However, still there's a worry about the reset value of GBPA.Abort as
> > pointed out by Robin earlier. Since the reset value of GBPA.Abort is 
> > implementation defined.. there's a chance that after a power cycle the
> > SMMU wakes up with GBPA configured to bypass.. in such a case, I don't
> > think the kernel should be responsible to ensure security..
> 
> The kernel should be responsible to operate that HW in a secure
> way. If the spec doesn't guarentee security then you will need a
> ACPI/DT flag to indicate if specific implementations are secure or
> not (ie if the implementation preserves GBPA.Abort).
> 
> Otherwise we'd have to architect around the insecurity somehow and
> prevent the SMMU from unpowering if there is any security sensitive
> attachment..

I see.. and what shall we do based on that ACPI/DT flag? 
Disable pm-runtime for security reasons? That way, the implementations
would get to chose if they *deliberately* want to enable runtime pm
despite the security issues. It can also act as an additional switch for
the pm feature.

> 
> Jason

Thanks,
Praan

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-24 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-19  0:42 [RFC PATCH 0/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement Runtime/System Sleep ops Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-19  0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Refactor arm_smmu_setup_irqs Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-19  4:50   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-19  7:43     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-20 22:29   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-03-21  7:26     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-25 16:19   ` Daniel Mentz
2025-03-26 19:35     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-19  0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add a helper to wait till cmdq drains Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-20 22:30   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-03-21  8:09     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-25 17:50   ` Daniel Mentz
2025-03-26 19:36     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-26  4:51   ` Daniel Mentz
2025-03-26 20:10     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-19  0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement pm_runtime & system sleep ops Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-20 22:33   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-03-21  8:13     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-26  4:52   ` Daniel Mentz
2025-03-28  7:47     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-14 17:57   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-14 21:26     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-15 20:47       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-15 22:28         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-16 10:24           ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-16 12:02             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-16 12:29               ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-16 12:42                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-16 12:52                   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-16 13:07                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-16 14:32                       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-15 20:37     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-15 22:13       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-16  8:29         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-19  0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Enable pm_runtime and setup devlinks Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-20 22:34   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-03-19  0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Invoke pm_runtime before hw access Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-19 12:04   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-20  7:25     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-20 12:54       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-20 13:22         ` Robin Murphy
2025-03-20 14:21           ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-20 22:36   ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-03-19 11:57 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement Runtime/System Sleep ops Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-19 16:07   ` Robin Murphy
2025-03-20 22:25     ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-03-21 14:18       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-21 17:35         ` Robin Murphy
2025-03-24 17:36           ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-27 17:27             ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-03-28  9:13               ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-28  9:19                 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-28 13:18                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-28 15:08                   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-28 18:21                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-19 18:22 ` Robin Murphy
2025-03-19 19:46   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-20 21:00     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-20 23:08       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-21 14:36         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-22  0:00           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-20 22:28     ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-03-20 23:05       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-21 14:44         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-21 15:30           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-24 17:53             ` Pranjal Shrivastava [this message]
2025-03-25 13:55               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-27 17:39                 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-03-28 13:21                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-20 14:13   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-20 14:54     ` Jason Gunthorpe

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