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From: Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>
To: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>
Cc: "Sumit Garg" <sumit.garg@linaro.org>,
	simona.vetter@ffwll.ch,
	"Jens Wiklander" <jens.wiklander@linaro.org>,
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	"Olivier Masse" <olivier.masse@nxp.com>,
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	"Yong Wu" <yong.wu@mediatek.com>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] TEE subsystem for restricted dma-buf allocations
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 18:00:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z36vIB-JrF5Ddhuf@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z209ZegsmgN1xlNG@wunner.de>

On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 12:26:29PM +0100, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 11:29:23AM +0530, Sumit Garg wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 at 14:58, Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de> wrote:
> > > However in the case of restricted memory, the situation is exactly
> > > the opposite:  The kernel may *not* be able to access the data,
> > > but the crypto accelerator can access it just fine.
> > >
> > > I did raise a concern about this to the maintainer, but to no avail:
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/r/Z1Kym1-9ka8kGHrM@wunner.de/
> > 
> > Herbert's point is valid that there isn't any point for mapping
> > restricted memory in the kernel virtual address space as any kernel
> > access to that space can lead to platform specific hardware error
> > scenarios. And for that reason we simply disallow dma_buf_mmap() and
> > don't support dma_buf_vmap() for DMA-bufs holding TEE restricted
> > memory.
> 
> The API for signature generation/verification (e.g. crypto_sig_sign(),
> crypto_sig_verify()) no longer accepts scatterlists, only buffers in
> virtual address space:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/ZIrnPcPj9Zbq51jK@gondor.apana.org.au/
> 
> Hence in order to use buffers in restricted memory for signature
> generation/verification, you'd need to map them into virtual address
> space first.

Nope, you need to get that old api back. Kernel virtual address space
mappings for dma-buf are very intentionally optional.
-Sima
-- 
Simona Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch


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From: Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>
To: op-tee@lists.trustedfirmware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] TEE subsystem for restricted dma-buf allocations
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 18:00:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z36vIB-JrF5Ddhuf@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z209ZegsmgN1xlNG@wunner.de>

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On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 12:26:29PM +0100, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 11:29:23AM +0530, Sumit Garg wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 at 14:58, Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de> wrote:
> > > However in the case of restricted memory, the situation is exactly
> > > the opposite:  The kernel may *not* be able to access the data,
> > > but the crypto accelerator can access it just fine.
> > >
> > > I did raise a concern about this to the maintainer, but to no avail:
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/r/Z1Kym1-9ka8kGHrM(a)wunner.de/
> > 
> > Herbert's point is valid that there isn't any point for mapping
> > restricted memory in the kernel virtual address space as any kernel
> > access to that space can lead to platform specific hardware error
> > scenarios. And for that reason we simply disallow dma_buf_mmap() and
> > don't support dma_buf_vmap() for DMA-bufs holding TEE restricted
> > memory.
> 
> The API for signature generation/verification (e.g. crypto_sig_sign(),
> crypto_sig_verify()) no longer accepts scatterlists, only buffers in
> virtual address space:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/ZIrnPcPj9Zbq51jK(a)gondor.apana.org.au/
> 
> Hence in order to use buffers in restricted memory for signature
> generation/verification, you'd need to map them into virtual address
> space first.

Nope, you need to get that old api back. Kernel virtual address space
mappings for dma-buf are very intentionally optional.
-Sima
-- 
Simona Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-08 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-17 10:07 [PATCH v4 0/6] TEE subsystem for restricted dma-buf allocations Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07 ` Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] tee: add restricted memory allocation Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07   ` Jens Wiklander
2025-01-08 16:54   ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-08 16:54     ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-09  7:17     ` Jens Wiklander
2025-01-09  7:17       ` Jens Wiklander
2025-02-13  8:44   ` Boris Brezillon
2025-02-13  8:44     ` Boris Brezillon
2024-12-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] optee: account for direction while converting parameters Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07   ` Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] optee: sync secure world ABI headers Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07   ` Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] optee: support restricted memory allocation Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07   ` Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] optee: FF-A: dynamic " Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07   ` Jens Wiklander
2024-12-20 14:38   ` kernel test robot
2024-12-20 14:38     ` kernel test robot
2024-12-21  9:40   ` kernel test robot
2024-12-21  9:40     ` kernel test robot
2024-12-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] optee: smc abi: " Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07   ` Jens Wiklander
2024-12-18 11:06 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] TEE subsystem for restricted dma-buf allocations Simona Vetter
2024-12-18 11:06   ` Simona Vetter
2024-12-24  6:35   ` Sumit Garg
2024-12-24  6:35     ` Sumit Garg
2024-12-24  9:28     ` Lukas Wunner
2024-12-24  9:28       ` Lukas Wunner
2024-12-24  9:32       ` Lukas Wunner
2024-12-24  9:32         ` Lukas Wunner
2024-12-24 10:00         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-12-24 10:00           ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-12-26  5:59       ` Sumit Garg
2024-12-26  5:59         ` Sumit Garg
2024-12-26 11:26         ` Lukas Wunner
2024-12-26 11:26           ` Lukas Wunner
2025-01-08 17:00           ` Simona Vetter [this message]
2025-01-08 17:00             ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-08 16:57     ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-08 16:57       ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-09  6:08       ` Sumit Garg
2025-01-09  6:08         ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-12 19:56 ` Boris Brezillon
2025-02-12 19:56   ` Boris Brezillon
2025-02-13  6:41   ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-13  6:41     ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-13  8:19     ` Jens Wiklander
2025-02-13  8:19       ` Jens Wiklander
2025-02-13  8:35     ` Boris Brezillon
2025-02-13  8:35       ` Boris Brezillon
2025-02-13  9:16       ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-13  9:16         ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-13 12:40         ` Boris Brezillon
2025-02-13 12:40           ` Boris Brezillon
2025-02-13 14:05           ` Daniel Stone
2025-02-13 14:05             ` Daniel Stone
2025-02-13 15:57             ` Jens Wiklander
2025-02-13 15:57               ` Jens Wiklander
2025-02-13 17:39               ` Daniel Stone
2025-02-13 17:39                 ` Daniel Stone
2025-02-14 10:07                 ` Jens Wiklander
2025-02-14 10:07                   ` Jens Wiklander
2025-02-14 13:07                   ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-14 13:07                     ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-14 15:48                     ` Boris Brezillon
2025-02-14 15:48                       ` Boris Brezillon
2025-02-17  6:12                       ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-17  6:12                         ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-18 16:22                         ` Daniel Stone
2025-02-18 16:22                           ` Daniel Stone
2025-02-19 13:22                           ` Simona Vetter
2025-02-19 13:22                             ` Simona Vetter
2025-02-21 11:24                           ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-21 11:24                             ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-21 14:12                             ` Daniel Stone
2025-02-21 14:12                               ` Daniel Stone
2025-03-04  7:17                               ` Jens Wiklander
2025-03-04  7:17                                 ` Jens Wiklander
2025-03-04  7:45                                 ` Sumit Garg
2025-03-04  7:45                                   ` Sumit Garg
2025-03-18 18:38                                   ` Nicolas Dufresne
2025-03-18 18:38                                     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2025-03-19  7:37                                     ` Jens Wiklander
2025-03-19  7:37                                       ` Jens Wiklander

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