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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "BALATON Zoltan" <balaton@eik.bme.hu>,
	"Laurent Vivier" <lvivier@redhat.com>,
	"Ovchinnikov Vitalii" <vitalii.ovchinnikov@auriga.com>,
	"Jared Mauch" <jared+home@puck.nether.net>,
	"Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	devel@lists.libvirt.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 11/12] hw/arm/raspi: Deprecate old raspiX machine names
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 10:51:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z6HxT6cHJTUNwRbB@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18ebe0c3-7ae6-4ba4-92f1-452a613d2c8d@linaro.org>

On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 11:48:10AM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> On 4/2/25 10:57, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 10:51:04AM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> > > On 4/2/25 10:22, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 at 00:23, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > All previous raspi machines can be created using the
> > > > > generic machine. Deprecate the old names to maintain
> > > > > a single one. Update the tests.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@linaro.org>
> > > > 
> > > > > diff --git a/docs/about/deprecated.rst b/docs/about/deprecated.rst
> > > > > index 4a3c302962a..c9a11a52f78 100644
> > > > > --- a/docs/about/deprecated.rst
> > > > > +++ b/docs/about/deprecated.rst
> > > > > @@ -257,6 +257,19 @@ Big-Endian variants of MicroBlaze ``petalogix-ml605`` and ``xlnx-zynqmp-pmu`` ma
> > > > >    Both ``petalogix-ml605`` and ``xlnx-zynqmp-pmu`` were added for little endian
> > > > >    CPUs. Big endian support is not tested.
> > > > > 
> > > > > +ARM ``raspi0``, ``raspi1ap``, ``raspi2b``, ``raspi3ap``, ``raspi3b`` and ``raspi4b`` machines (since 10.0)
> > > > > +''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
> > > > > +
> > > > > +The Raspberry Pi machines have been unified under the generic ``raspi`` machine,
> > > > > +which takes the model as argument.
> > > > > +
> > > > > +    - `raspi0`` is now an alias for ``raspi,model=Zero``
> > > > > +    - `raspi1ap`` is now an alias for ``raspi,model=1A+``
> > > > > +    - `raspi2b`` is now an alias for ``raspi,model=2B``
> > > > > +    - `raspi3ap`` is now an alias for ``raspi,model=3A+``
> > > > > +    - `raspi3b`` is now an alias for ``raspi,model=3B``
> > > > > +    - `raspi4b`` is now an alias for ``raspi,model=4B``
> > > > 
> > > > This is not how we typically handle "we have a bunch
> > > > of different devboards in one family". What's wrong with the
> > > > existing set of machine names?
> > > 
> > > Zoltan and you don't want to add more machine names, then you
> > > don't want a generic machine. This is very confusing.
> > 
> > IMHO we can have distinct machines for each model, but
> > *NOT* have further machines for each RAM size within a
> > model.
> 
> Got it. Unfortunately I spent more than my hobbyist time credit
> doing this, so if I find the motivation to revisit, it'll be later.
> 
> Still, having machine memory size depending on the host config was
> a bad design choice IMHO, as we test different setup depending on
> the host being used, so not really a "reproducible" setup.

Yeah that one is a bit ugly. IMHO it would be valid to just leave
it defaulted to 2GB and ensure we get a nice error message on
32-bit hosts, letting users override RAM size if they desire. Or
its just another reason to kill 32-bit hosts

With regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-04 10:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-04  0:22 [PATCH v2 00/12] hw/arm/raspi: Allow creating any Raspberry Pi machine Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] hw/arm/raspi: Access SoC parent object using BCM283X_BASE() macro Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04  0:22   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04 15:01   ` Peter Maydell
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] hw/arm/raspi: Merge model 4B with other models Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04 15:02   ` Peter Maydell
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] hw/arm/raspi: Unify RASPI_MACHINE types Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04 15:06   ` Peter Maydell
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] hw/arm/raspi: Pass board_rev as argument to raspi_base_machine_init() Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] hw/arm/raspi: Consider processor id in types[] array Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04 15:08   ` Peter Maydell
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] hw/arm/raspi: Consider network interface for B models Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04 15:09   ` Peter Maydell
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] hw/arm/raspi: Check ramsize is within chipset aperture Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04 15:10   ` Peter Maydell
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] hw/arm/raspi: Introduce generic Raspberry Pi machine Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] hw/arm/raspi: Have the generic machine take a 'revision' property Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] hw/arm/raspi: List models creatable by the generic 'raspi' machine Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] hw/arm/raspi: Deprecate old raspiX machine names Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04  9:22   ` Peter Maydell
2025-02-04  9:51     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04  9:57       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-02-04 10:48         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04 10:51           ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2025-02-04 11:13         ` Peter Maydell
2025-02-04 13:40           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04 13:52             ` Peter Maydell
2025-02-04 14:59               ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-04  9:58       ` BALATON Zoltan
2025-02-22 21:57         ` Jared Mauch
2025-02-04  0:22 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] hw/arm/raspi: Support more models Philippe Mathieu-Daudé

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