From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: "Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
"Daniel Golle" <daniel@makrotopia.org>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"Lorenzo Bianconi" <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
"Mark Lee" <Mark-MC.Lee@mediatek.com>,
"Landen Chao" <Landen.Chao@mediatek.com>,
"Sean Wang" <sean.wang@mediatek.com>,
"DENG Qingfang" <dqfext@gmail.com>,
linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
"John Crispin" <john@phrozen.org>,
"Matthias Brugger" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
"AngeloGioacchino Del Regno"
<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
"Arınç ÜNAL" <arinc.unal@arinc9.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Alexander Couzens" <lynxis@fe80.eu>,
"Vladimir Oltean" <olteanv@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Bjørn Mork" <bjorn@mork.no>, "Felix Fietkau" <nbd@nbd.name>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v13 11/16] net: dsa: mt7530: use external PCS driver
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 23:11:58 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZBD/PrMM7vxae5gY@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230314223413.velxur7gi7snpdei@skbuf>
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 12:34:13AM +0200, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> But the mt7530 maintainers have gone
> pretty silent as of late, and I, as a fallback maintainer with no
> hardware, have had to send 2 bug fixes to the mt7530 and 1 to the
> mtk_eth_soc driver in the past month, to address the reports.
That's an under-statement, and not just the DSA driver, but the
ethernet driver too. It's been years trying to get the attention
of anyone to sort out the pre-March 2020 crud in this driver, and
no one seems to care, and none of the alleged maintainers bother
replying.
I don't believe anyone who claims to be a maintainer for either the
DSA or Ethernet driver has commented on any of my patches or provided
any review.
In my mind, these drivers do not have maintainers.
What I have to resort to is spotting potential victims^wtesters on
the mailing lists to try stuff out for me - which is really not
how this should work.
It seems to me that this is the old "chuck code over the wall into
mainline, then do a runner" approach to kernel maintenance.
So, honestly, the sooner these drivers get proper maintainers, the
better - and if someone wants to step up to do that amongst those
who are involved in the current work, I'm all for that - it would
be a hell of a lot better than the current situation.
--
RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!
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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: "Arınç ÜNAL" <arinc.unal@arinc9.com>,
"Daniel Golle" <daniel@makrotopia.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
"Lorenzo Bianconi" <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
"Mark Lee" <Mark-MC.Lee@mediatek.com>,
"John Crispin" <john@phrozen.org>, "Felix Fietkau" <nbd@nbd.name>,
"AngeloGioacchino Del Regno"
<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
"Matthias Brugger" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
"DENG Qingfang" <dqfext@gmail.com>,
"Landen Chao" <Landen.Chao@mediatek.com>,
"Sean Wang" <sean.wang@mediatek.com>,
"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Vladimir Oltean" <olteanv@gmail.com>,
"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>, "Bjørn Mork" <bjorn@mork.no>,
"Frank Wunderlich" <frank-w@public-files.de>,
"Alexander Couzens" <lynxis@fe80.eu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v13 11/16] net: dsa: mt7530: use external PCS driver
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 23:11:58 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZBD/PrMM7vxae5gY@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230314223413.velxur7gi7snpdei@skbuf>
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 12:34:13AM +0200, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> But the mt7530 maintainers have gone
> pretty silent as of late, and I, as a fallback maintainer with no
> hardware, have had to send 2 bug fixes to the mt7530 and 1 to the
> mtk_eth_soc driver in the past month, to address the reports.
That's an under-statement, and not just the DSA driver, but the
ethernet driver too. It's been years trying to get the attention
of anyone to sort out the pre-March 2020 crud in this driver, and
no one seems to care, and none of the alleged maintainers bother
replying.
I don't believe anyone who claims to be a maintainer for either the
DSA or Ethernet driver has commented on any of my patches or provided
any review.
In my mind, these drivers do not have maintainers.
What I have to resort to is spotting potential victims^wtesters on
the mailing lists to try stuff out for me - which is really not
how this should work.
It seems to me that this is the old "chuck code over the wall into
mainline, then do a runner" approach to kernel maintenance.
So, honestly, the sooner these drivers get proper maintainers, the
better - and if someone wants to step up to do that amongst those
who are involved in the current work, I'm all for that - it would
be a hell of a lot better than the current situation.
--
RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!
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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: "Arınç ÜNAL" <arinc.unal@arinc9.com>,
"Daniel Golle" <daniel@makrotopia.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
"Lorenzo Bianconi" <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
"Mark Lee" <Mark-MC.Lee@mediatek.com>,
"John Crispin" <john@phrozen.org>, "Felix Fietkau" <nbd@nbd.name>,
"AngeloGioacchino Del Regno"
<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
"Matthias Brugger" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
"DENG Qingfang" <dqfext@gmail.com>,
"Landen Chao" <Landen.Chao@mediatek.com>,
"Sean Wang" <sean.wang@mediatek.com>,
"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Vladimir Oltean" <olteanv@gmail.com>,
"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>, "Bjørn Mork" <bjorn@mork.no>,
"Frank Wunderlich" <frank-w@public-files.de>,
"Alexander Couzens" <lynxis@fe80.eu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v13 11/16] net: dsa: mt7530: use external PCS driver
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 23:11:58 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZBD/PrMM7vxae5gY@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230314223413.velxur7gi7snpdei@skbuf>
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 12:34:13AM +0200, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> But the mt7530 maintainers have gone
> pretty silent as of late, and I, as a fallback maintainer with no
> hardware, have had to send 2 bug fixes to the mt7530 and 1 to the
> mtk_eth_soc driver in the past month, to address the reports.
That's an under-statement, and not just the DSA driver, but the
ethernet driver too. It's been years trying to get the attention
of anyone to sort out the pre-March 2020 crud in this driver, and
no one seems to care, and none of the alleged maintainers bother
replying.
I don't believe anyone who claims to be a maintainer for either the
DSA or Ethernet driver has commented on any of my patches or provided
any review.
In my mind, these drivers do not have maintainers.
What I have to resort to is spotting potential victims^wtesters on
the mailing lists to try stuff out for me - which is really not
how this should work.
It seems to me that this is the old "chuck code over the wall into
mainline, then do a runner" approach to kernel maintenance.
So, honestly, the sooner these drivers get proper maintainers, the
better - and if someone wants to step up to do that amongst those
who are involved in the current work, I'm all for that - it would
be a hell of a lot better than the current situation.
--
RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-14 23:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-09 10:54 [PATCH net-next v13 00/16] net: ethernet: mtk_eth_soc: various enhancements Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:54 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:54 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:54 ` [PATCH net-next v13 01/16] net: ethernet: mtk_eth_soc: add support for MT7981 SoC Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:54 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:54 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:55 ` [PATCH net-next v13 02/16] dt-bindings: net: mediatek,net: add mt7981-eth binding Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:55 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:55 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:55 ` [PATCH net-next v13 03/16] dt-bindings: arm: mediatek: sgmiisys: Convert to DT schema Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:55 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:55 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:55 ` [PATCH net-next v13 04/16] dt-bindings: arm: mediatek: sgmiisys: add MT7981 SoC Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:55 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:55 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:56 ` [PATCH net-next v13 05/16] net: ethernet: mtk_eth_soc: set MDIO bus clock frequency Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:56 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:56 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:56 ` [PATCH net-next v13 06/16] net: ethernet: mtk_eth_soc: reset PCS state Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:56 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:56 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:56 ` [PATCH net-next v13 07/16] net: ethernet: mtk_eth_soc: only write values if needed Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:56 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:56 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:56 ` [PATCH net-next v13 08/16] net: ethernet: mtk_eth_soc: ppe: add support for flow accounting Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:56 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:56 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:57 ` [PATCH net-next v13 09/16] net: pcs: add driver for MediaTek SGMII PCS Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:57 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:57 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:57 ` [PATCH net-next v13 10/16] net: ethernet: mtk_eth_soc: switch to external PCS driver Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:57 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:57 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-10 11:10 ` Aw: " Frank Wunderlich
2023-03-10 11:10 ` Frank Wunderlich
2023-03-09 10:57 ` [PATCH net-next v13 11/16] net: dsa: mt7530: use " Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:57 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:57 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-10 11:08 ` Aw: " Frank Wunderlich
2023-03-10 11:08 ` Frank Wunderlich
2023-03-14 17:16 ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-03-14 17:16 ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-03-14 17:16 ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-03-14 17:45 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-14 17:45 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-14 17:45 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-14 18:21 ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-03-14 18:21 ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-03-14 18:21 ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-03-14 19:53 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-03-14 19:53 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-03-14 19:53 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-03-14 20:59 ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-03-14 20:59 ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-03-14 20:59 ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-03-14 22:34 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-03-14 22:34 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-03-14 22:34 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-03-14 23:11 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2023-03-14 23:11 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-03-14 23:11 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-03-15 9:31 ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-03-15 9:31 ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-03-15 9:31 ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-03-09 10:58 ` [PATCH net-next v13 12/16] net: ethernet: mtk_eth_soc: add MTK_NETSYS_V1 capability bit Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:58 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:58 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:58 ` [PATCH net-next v13 13/16] net: ethernet: mtk_eth_soc: move MAX_DEVS in mtk_soc_data Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:58 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:58 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:58 ` [PATCH net-next v13 14/16] net: ethernet: mtk_eth_soc: rely on num_devs and remove MTK_MAC_COUNT Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:58 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:58 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:58 ` [PATCH net-next v13 15/16] net: ethernet: mtk_eth_soc: add MTK_NETSYS_V3 capability bit Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:58 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:58 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:58 ` [PATCH net-next v13 16/16] net: ethernet: mtk_eth_soc: convert caps in mtk_soc_data struct to u64 Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:58 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-09 10:58 ` Daniel Golle
2023-03-13 23:53 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-13 23:53 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-13 23:53 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-13 23:51 ` [PATCH net-next v13 00/16] net: ethernet: mtk_eth_soc: various enhancements Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-13 23:51 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-13 23:51 ` Jakub Kicinski
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