From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: "Sit, Michael Wei Hong" <michael.wei.hong.sit@intel.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Giuseppe Cavallaro <peppe.cavallaro@st.com>,
Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>,
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"Voon, Weifeng" <weifeng.voon@intel.com>,
"Lai, Peter Jun Ann" <peter.jun.ann.lai@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v3 1/3] net: phylink: add phylink_expects_phy() method
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 10:48:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZCQJWcdfmualIjvX@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR11MB7587808A98658C9F075A0C309D899@PH0PR11MB7587.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 09:34:05AM +0000, Sit, Michael Wei Hong wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 5:01 PM
> > To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Sit, Michael Wei Hong <michael.wei.hong.sit@intel.com>;
> > Giuseppe Cavallaro <peppe.cavallaro@st.com>; Alexandre Torgue
> > <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>; Jose Abreu
> > <joabreu@synopsys.com>; David S . Miller <davem@davemloft.net>;
> > Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>; Paolo Abeni
> > <pabeni@redhat.com>; Maxime Coquelin
> > <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>; Ong, Boon Leong
> > <boon.leong.ong@intel.com>; netdev@vger.kernel.org; linux-
> > stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com; linux-arm-
> > kernel@lists.infradead.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; Looi,
> > Hong Aun <hong.aun.looi@intel.com>; Voon, Weifeng
> > <weifeng.voon@intel.com>; Lai, Peter Jun Ann
> > <peter.jun.ann.lai@intel.com>
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH net v3 1/3] net: phylink: add
> > phylink_expects_phy() method
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 06:57:20PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 16:16:54 +0800 Michael Sit Wei Hong wrote:
> > > > Provide phylink_expects_phy() to allow MAC drivers to check if it
> > is
> > > > expecting a PHY to attach to. Since fixed-linked setups do not
> > need
> > > > to attach to a PHY.
> > > >
> > > > Provides a boolean value as to if the MAC should expect a PHY.
> > > > returns true if a PHY is expected.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Michael Sit Wei Hong
> > <michael.wei.hong.sit@intel.com>
> > >
> > > Russell, looks good?
> >
> > Not really, given that phylink_attach_phy() will refuse to attach a
> > PHY
> > when:
> >
> > if (WARN_ON(pl->cfg_link_an_mode == MLO_AN_FIXED ||
> > (pl->cfg_link_an_mode == MLO_AN_INBAND &&
> > phy_interface_mode_is_8023z(interface) && !pl-
> > >sfp_bus)))
> > return -EINVAL;
> >
> > So, if we introduce a helper named "phylink_expects_phy" that
> > returns true when cfg_link_an_mode == MLO_AN_INBAND and the
> > interface mode is e.g. 1000base-X, but then someone tries to attach
> > a PHY, the kernel spits out a warning, backtrace, and a return value
> > of -EINVAL, things are going to look really rather stupid.
> >
> Should we check for these 3 conditions as well then?
> (pl->cfg_link_an_mode == MLO_AN_INBAND &&
> phy_interface_mode_is_8023z(interface) && !pl->sfp_bus)
> to determine if phylink expects a phy.
If there's a sfp bus, then we don't expect a PHY from the MAC driver
(as there can only be one PHY attached), and as phylink_expects_phy()
is for the MAC driver to use, we should be returning false if
pl->sfp_bus != NULL.
pl->cfg_link_an_mode == MLO_AN_FIXED ||
(pl->cfg_link_an_mode == MLO_AN_INBAND &&
phy_interface_mode_is_8023z(interface))
Is true when we're in fixed-link mode, or if we're in in-band mode
and using 1000base-X or 25000base-X. These are the conditions that
we don't expect the MAC driver to give us a PHY.
To put that in positive logic, we expect a PHY from the MAC when
we're in PHY mode, or when we're in in-band mode and using SGMII,
QSGMII, USXGMII, RGMII, etc.
The reason for the extra "&& !pl->sfp_bus" in phylink_attach_phy()
is to allow SFPs to connect to the MAC using inband mode with
1000base-X and 2500base-X interface modes. These are not for the
MAC-side of things though.
--
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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: "Sit, Michael Wei Hong" <michael.wei.hong.sit@intel.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Giuseppe Cavallaro <peppe.cavallaro@st.com>,
Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>,
Jose Abreu <joabreu@synopsys.com>,
"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Maxime Coquelin <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
"Ong, Boon Leong" <boon.leong.ong@intel.com>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com"
<linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Looi, Hong Aun" <hong.aun.looi@intel.com>,
"Voon, Weifeng" <weifeng.voon@intel.com>,
"Lai, Peter Jun Ann" <peter.jun.ann.lai@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v3 1/3] net: phylink: add phylink_expects_phy() method
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 10:48:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZCQJWcdfmualIjvX@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR11MB7587808A98658C9F075A0C309D899@PH0PR11MB7587.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 09:34:05AM +0000, Sit, Michael Wei Hong wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 5:01 PM
> > To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Sit, Michael Wei Hong <michael.wei.hong.sit@intel.com>;
> > Giuseppe Cavallaro <peppe.cavallaro@st.com>; Alexandre Torgue
> > <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>; Jose Abreu
> > <joabreu@synopsys.com>; David S . Miller <davem@davemloft.net>;
> > Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>; Paolo Abeni
> > <pabeni@redhat.com>; Maxime Coquelin
> > <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>; Ong, Boon Leong
> > <boon.leong.ong@intel.com>; netdev@vger.kernel.org; linux-
> > stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com; linux-arm-
> > kernel@lists.infradead.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; Looi,
> > Hong Aun <hong.aun.looi@intel.com>; Voon, Weifeng
> > <weifeng.voon@intel.com>; Lai, Peter Jun Ann
> > <peter.jun.ann.lai@intel.com>
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH net v3 1/3] net: phylink: add
> > phylink_expects_phy() method
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 06:57:20PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 16:16:54 +0800 Michael Sit Wei Hong wrote:
> > > > Provide phylink_expects_phy() to allow MAC drivers to check if it
> > is
> > > > expecting a PHY to attach to. Since fixed-linked setups do not
> > need
> > > > to attach to a PHY.
> > > >
> > > > Provides a boolean value as to if the MAC should expect a PHY.
> > > > returns true if a PHY is expected.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Michael Sit Wei Hong
> > <michael.wei.hong.sit@intel.com>
> > >
> > > Russell, looks good?
> >
> > Not really, given that phylink_attach_phy() will refuse to attach a
> > PHY
> > when:
> >
> > if (WARN_ON(pl->cfg_link_an_mode == MLO_AN_FIXED ||
> > (pl->cfg_link_an_mode == MLO_AN_INBAND &&
> > phy_interface_mode_is_8023z(interface) && !pl-
> > >sfp_bus)))
> > return -EINVAL;
> >
> > So, if we introduce a helper named "phylink_expects_phy" that
> > returns true when cfg_link_an_mode == MLO_AN_INBAND and the
> > interface mode is e.g. 1000base-X, but then someone tries to attach
> > a PHY, the kernel spits out a warning, backtrace, and a return value
> > of -EINVAL, things are going to look really rather stupid.
> >
> Should we check for these 3 conditions as well then?
> (pl->cfg_link_an_mode == MLO_AN_INBAND &&
> phy_interface_mode_is_8023z(interface) && !pl->sfp_bus)
> to determine if phylink expects a phy.
If there's a sfp bus, then we don't expect a PHY from the MAC driver
(as there can only be one PHY attached), and as phylink_expects_phy()
is for the MAC driver to use, we should be returning false if
pl->sfp_bus != NULL.
pl->cfg_link_an_mode == MLO_AN_FIXED ||
(pl->cfg_link_an_mode == MLO_AN_INBAND &&
phy_interface_mode_is_8023z(interface))
Is true when we're in fixed-link mode, or if we're in in-band mode
and using 1000base-X or 25000base-X. These are the conditions that
we don't expect the MAC driver to give us a PHY.
To put that in positive logic, we expect a PHY from the MAC when
we're in PHY mode, or when we're in in-band mode and using SGMII,
QSGMII, USXGMII, RGMII, etc.
The reason for the extra "&& !pl->sfp_bus" in phylink_attach_phy()
is to allow SFPs to connect to the MAC using inband mode with
1000base-X and 2500base-X interface modes. These are not for the
MAC-side of things though.
--
RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-29 9:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-24 8:16 [PATCH net v3 0/3] Fix PHY handle no longer parsing Michael Sit Wei Hong
2023-03-24 8:16 ` Michael Sit Wei Hong
2023-03-24 8:16 ` [PATCH net v3 1/3] net: phylink: add phylink_expects_phy() method Michael Sit Wei Hong
2023-03-24 8:16 ` Michael Sit Wei Hong
2023-03-29 1:57 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-29 1:57 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-29 9:01 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-03-29 9:01 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-03-29 9:34 ` Sit, Michael Wei Hong
2023-03-29 9:34 ` Sit, Michael Wei Hong
2023-03-29 9:48 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2023-03-29 9:48 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-03-24 8:16 ` [PATCH net v3 2/3] net: stmmac: check if MAC needs to attach to a PHY Michael Sit Wei Hong
2023-03-24 8:16 ` Michael Sit Wei Hong
2023-04-05 17:02 ` Guenter Roeck
2023-04-05 17:02 ` Guenter Roeck
2023-04-05 17:08 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-04-05 17:08 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-03-24 8:16 ` [PATCH net v3 3/3] net: stmmac: remove redundant fixup to support fixed-link mode Michael Sit Wei Hong
2023-03-24 8:16 ` Michael Sit Wei Hong
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