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From: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
To: dccp@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] add initial io_uring_cmd support for sockets
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 00:02:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZDdGl/JGDoRDL8ja@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230406144330.1932798-1-leitao@debian.org>

On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 10:28:41AM -0400, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> Breno Leitao wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 09:28:29AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > On 4/11/23 9:24?AM, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > > Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > >> On 4/11/23 9:00?AM, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > >> But that doesn't work, because sock->ops->ioctl() assumes the arg is
> > > >> memory in userspace. Or do you mean change all of the sock->ops->ioctl()
> > > >> to pass in on-stack memory (or similar) and have it work with a kernel
> > > >> address?
> > > > 
> > > > That was what I suggested indeed.
> > > > 
> > > > It's about as much code change as this patch series. But it avoids
> > > > the code duplication.
> > > 
> > > Breno, want to tackle that as a prep patch first? Should make the
> > > functional changes afterwards much more straightforward, and will allow
> > > support for anything really.
> > 
> > Absolutely. I just want to make sure that I got the proper approach that
> > we agreed here.
> > 
> > Let me explain what I understood taking TCP as an example:
> > 
> > 1) Rename tcp_ioctl() to something as _tcp_ioctl() where the 'arg'
> > argument is now just a kernel memory (located in the stack frame from the
> > callee).
> > 
> > 2) Recreate "tcp_ioctl()" that will basically allocate a 'arg' in the
> > stack and call _tcp_ioctl() passing that 'arg' argument. At the bottom of
> > this (tcp_ioctl() function) function, call `put_user(in_kernel_arg, userspace_arg)
> > 
> > 3) Repeat it for the 20 protocols that implement ioctl:
> > 
> > 	ag  "struct proto .* = {" -A 20 net/ | grep \.ioctl
> > 	net/dccp/ipv6.c 	.ioctl	= dccp_ioctl,
> > 	net/dccp/ipv4.c		.ioctl	= dccp_ioctl,
> > 	net/ieee802154/socket.c .ioctl	= dgram_ioctl,
> > 	net/ipv4/udplite.c	.ioctl	= udp_ioctl,
> > 	net/ipv4/raw.c 		.ioctl	= raw_ioctl,
> > 	net/ipv4/udp.c		.ioctl	= udp_ioctl,
> > 	net/ipv4/tcp_ipv4.c 	.ioctl	= tcp_ioctl,
> > 	net/ipv6/raw.c		.ioctl	= rawv6_ioctl,
> > 	net/ipv6/tcp_ipv6.c	.ioctl	= tcp_ioctl,
> > 	net/ipv6/udp.c	 	.ioctl	= udp_ioctl,
> > 	net/ipv6/udplite.c	.ioctl	= udp_ioctl,
> > 	net/l2tp/l2tp_ip6.c	.ioctl	= l2tp_ioctl,
> > 	net/l2tp/l2tp_ip.c	.ioctl	= l2tp_ioctl,
> > 	net/phonet/datagram.:	.ioctl	= pn_ioctl,
> > 	net/phonet/pep.c	.ioctl	= pep_ioctl,
> > 	net/rds/af_rds.c	.ioctl	=	rds_ioctl,
> > 	net/sctp/socket.c	.ioctl  =	sctp_ioctl,
> > 	net/sctp/socket.c	.ioctl	= sctp_ioctl,
> > 	net/xdp/xsk.c		.ioctl	= sock_no_ioctl,
> > 	net/mptcp/protocol.c	.ioctl	= mptcp_ioctl,
> > 
> > Am I missing something?
> 
> The suggestion is to convert all to take kernel memory and do the
> put_cmsg in the caller of .ioctl. Rather than create a wrapper for
> each individual instance and add a separate .iouring_cmd for each.
> 
> "change all of the sock->ops->ioctl() to pass in on-stack memory
> (or similar) and have it work with a kernel address"

is it possible to do it for cases where we don't know what is the size
of the buffer?

For instance the raw_ioctl()/rawv6_ioctl() case. The "arg" argument is
used in different ways (one for input and one for output):

  1) If cmd = SIOCOUTQ or SIOCINQ, then the return value will be
  returned to userspace:
  	put_user(amount, (int __user *)arg)

  2) For default cmd, ipmr_ioctl() is called, which reads from the `arg`
  parameter:
	copy_from_user(&vr, arg, sizeof(vr)

How to handle these contradictory behaviour ahead of time (at callee
time, where the buffers will be prepared)?

Thank you!

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
To: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	kuba@kernel.org, asml.silence@gmail.com, leit@fb.com,
	edumazet@google.com, pabeni@redhat.com, davem@davemloft.net,
	dccp@vger.kernel.org, mptcp@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, matthieu.baerts@tessares.net,
	marcelo.leitner@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] add initial io_uring_cmd support for sockets
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 17:02:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZDdGl/JGDoRDL8ja@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6436c01979c9b_163b6294b4@willemb.c.googlers.com.notmuch>

On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 10:28:41AM -0400, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> Breno Leitao wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 09:28:29AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > On 4/11/23 9:24?AM, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > > Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > >> On 4/11/23 9:00?AM, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > >> But that doesn't work, because sock->ops->ioctl() assumes the arg is
> > > >> memory in userspace. Or do you mean change all of the sock->ops->ioctl()
> > > >> to pass in on-stack memory (or similar) and have it work with a kernel
> > > >> address?
> > > > 
> > > > That was what I suggested indeed.
> > > > 
> > > > It's about as much code change as this patch series. But it avoids
> > > > the code duplication.
> > > 
> > > Breno, want to tackle that as a prep patch first? Should make the
> > > functional changes afterwards much more straightforward, and will allow
> > > support for anything really.
> > 
> > Absolutely. I just want to make sure that I got the proper approach that
> > we agreed here.
> > 
> > Let me explain what I understood taking TCP as an example:
> > 
> > 1) Rename tcp_ioctl() to something as _tcp_ioctl() where the 'arg'
> > argument is now just a kernel memory (located in the stack frame from the
> > callee).
> > 
> > 2) Recreate "tcp_ioctl()" that will basically allocate a 'arg' in the
> > stack and call _tcp_ioctl() passing that 'arg' argument. At the bottom of
> > this (tcp_ioctl() function) function, call `put_user(in_kernel_arg, userspace_arg)
> > 
> > 3) Repeat it for the 20 protocols that implement ioctl:
> > 
> > 	ag  "struct proto .* = {" -A 20 net/ | grep \.ioctl
> > 	net/dccp/ipv6.c 	.ioctl	= dccp_ioctl,
> > 	net/dccp/ipv4.c		.ioctl	= dccp_ioctl,
> > 	net/ieee802154/socket.c .ioctl	= dgram_ioctl,
> > 	net/ipv4/udplite.c	.ioctl	= udp_ioctl,
> > 	net/ipv4/raw.c 		.ioctl	= raw_ioctl,
> > 	net/ipv4/udp.c		.ioctl	= udp_ioctl,
> > 	net/ipv4/tcp_ipv4.c 	.ioctl	= tcp_ioctl,
> > 	net/ipv6/raw.c		.ioctl	= rawv6_ioctl,
> > 	net/ipv6/tcp_ipv6.c	.ioctl	= tcp_ioctl,
> > 	net/ipv6/udp.c	 	.ioctl	= udp_ioctl,
> > 	net/ipv6/udplite.c	.ioctl	= udp_ioctl,
> > 	net/l2tp/l2tp_ip6.c	.ioctl	= l2tp_ioctl,
> > 	net/l2tp/l2tp_ip.c	.ioctl	= l2tp_ioctl,
> > 	net/phonet/datagram.:	.ioctl	= pn_ioctl,
> > 	net/phonet/pep.c	.ioctl	= pep_ioctl,
> > 	net/rds/af_rds.c	.ioctl	=	rds_ioctl,
> > 	net/sctp/socket.c	.ioctl  =	sctp_ioctl,
> > 	net/sctp/socket.c	.ioctl	= sctp_ioctl,
> > 	net/xdp/xsk.c		.ioctl	= sock_no_ioctl,
> > 	net/mptcp/protocol.c	.ioctl	= mptcp_ioctl,
> > 
> > Am I missing something?
> 
> The suggestion is to convert all to take kernel memory and do the
> put_cmsg in the caller of .ioctl. Rather than create a wrapper for
> each individual instance and add a separate .iouring_cmd for each.
> 
> "change all of the sock->ops->ioctl() to pass in on-stack memory
> (or similar) and have it work with a kernel address"

is it possible to do it for cases where we don't know what is the size
of the buffer?

For instance the raw_ioctl()/rawv6_ioctl() case. The "arg" argument is
used in different ways (one for input and one for output):

  1) If cmd == SIOCOUTQ or SIOCINQ, then the return value will be
  returned to userspace:
  	put_user(amount, (int __user *)arg)

  2) For default cmd, ipmr_ioctl() is called, which reads from the `arg`
  parameter:
	copy_from_user(&vr, arg, sizeof(vr)

How to handle these contradictory behaviour ahead of time (at callee
time, where the buffers will be prepared)?

Thank you!

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-04-13  0:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-06 14:43 [PATCH 0/5] add initial io_uring_cmd support for sockets Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 14:43 ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 15:34 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-06 15:34   ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-06 15:59 ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 15:59   ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 16:41 ` Keith Busch
2023-04-06 16:41   ` Keith Busch
2023-04-06 16:49 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-06 16:49   ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-06 16:58 ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 16:58   ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 18:16 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-06 18:16   ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-07  2:46 ` David Ahern
2023-04-07  2:46   ` David Ahern
2023-04-11 11:59 ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-11 12:00   ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-11 14:36 ` David Ahern
2023-04-11 14:36   ` David Ahern
2023-04-11 14:41 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 14:41   ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 14:51 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-11 14:51   ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-11 14:54 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 14:54   ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 15:00 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-11 15:00   ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-11 15:06 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 15:06   ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 15:10 ` David Ahern
2023-04-11 15:10   ` David Ahern
2023-04-11 15:17 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 15:17   ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 15:24 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-11 15:24   ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-11 15:27 ` David Ahern
2023-04-11 15:27   ` David Ahern
2023-04-11 15:28 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 15:28   ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 15:29 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 15:29   ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-12  7:39 ` David Laight
2023-04-12  7:39   ` David Laight
2023-04-12 13:53 ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-12 13:53   ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-12 14:28 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-12 14:28   ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-13  0:02 ` Breno Leitao [this message]
2023-04-13  0:02   ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-13 14:24 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-13 14:24   ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-13 14:45 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-13 14:45   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-13 14:57 ` David Laight
2023-04-13 14:57   ` David Laight
2023-04-18 13:23 ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-18 13:23   ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-18 19:41 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-18 19:41   ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-20 14:43 ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-20 14:43   ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-20 16:48 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-20 16:48   ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-05-02  9:21 ` Adrien Delorme
2023-05-02  9:21   ` Adrien Delorme
2023-05-02 13:03 ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-05-02 13:03   ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-05-03 13:11 ` Adrien Delorme
2023-05-03 13:11   ` Adrien Delorme
2023-05-03 13:27 ` David Laight
2023-05-03 13:27   ` David Laight
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-04-06 14:43 [RFC PATCH 1/4] net: wire up support for file_operations->uring_cmd() Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 14:43 ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 14:43 [RFC PATCH 2/4] net: add uring_cmd callback to UDP Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 14:43 ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 19:03 ` kernel test robot
2023-04-11 12:54 ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-11 12:54   ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-06 14:43 [RFC PATCH 3/4] net: add uring_cmd callback to TCP Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 14:43 ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 20:35 ` kernel test robot
2023-04-06 14:43 [RFC PATCH 4/4] net: add uring_cmd callback to raw "protocol" Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 14:43 ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 16:57 [PATCH RFC] io_uring: Pass whole sqe to commands Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 16:57 ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 17:50 ` io_uring: Pass whole sqe to commands: Tests Results MPTCP CI
2023-04-07 18:51 ` [PATCH RFC] io_uring: Pass whole sqe to commands Keith Busch
2023-04-07 18:51   ` Keith Busch
2023-04-07 19:43 ` io_uring: Pass whole sqe to commands: Tests Results MPTCP CI
2023-04-11 12:22 ` [PATCH RFC] io_uring: Pass whole sqe to commands Breno Leitao
2023-04-11 12:22   ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-11 12:39 ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-11 12:39   ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-13  2:56 ` Ming Lei
2023-04-13  2:56   ` Ming Lei
2023-04-13 16:47 ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-13 16:47   ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-14  2:12 ` Ming Lei
2023-04-14  2:12   ` Ming Lei
2023-04-14 13:12 ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-14 13:12   ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-14 13:59 ` Ming Lei
2023-04-14 13:59   ` Ming Lei
2023-04-14 14:56 ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-14 14:56   ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-16  9:51 ` Ming Lei
2023-04-16  9:51   ` Ming Lei

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