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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Alim Akhtar <alim.akhtar@samsung.com>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno 
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>,
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	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>,
	Orson Zhai <orsonzhai@gmail.com>, Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>,
	Samuel Holland <samuel@sholland.org>,
	Niklas Schnelle <schnelle@linux.ibm.com>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Krishna Reddy <vdumpa@nvidia.com>, Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@csie.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Yong Wu <yong.wu@mediatek.com>,
	Chunyan Zhang <zhang.lyra@gmail.com>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/20] iommu/terga-gart: Replace set_platform_dma_ops() with IOMMU_DOMAIN_PLATFORM
Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 08:01:35 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZFI/D6mnLKYpdIqx@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1db712d2-9e33-4183-2766-34e32f170507@arm.com>

On Wed, May 03, 2023 at 10:17:29AM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 2023-05-01 19:02, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > tegra-gart seems to be kind of wonky since from the start its 'detach_dev'
> > op doesn't actually touch hardware. It is supposed to empty the GART of
> > all translations loaded into it.
> 
> No, detach should never tear down translations - what if other devices are
> still using the domain?

?? All other drivers do this. The core contract is that this sequence:

   dom = iommu_domain_alloc()
   iommu_attach_device(dom, dev)
   iommu_map(dom,...)
   iommu_detach_device(dom, dev)

Will not continue to have the IOVA mapped to the device. We rely on
this for various error paths.

If the HW is multi-device then it is supposed to have groups.

> > Call this weirdness PLATFORM which keeps the basic original
> > ops->detach_dev() semantic alive without needing much special core code
> > support. I'm guessing it really ends up in a BLOCKING configuration, but
> > without any forced cleanup it is unsafe.
> 
> The GART translation aperture is in physical address space, so the truth is
> that all devices have access to it at the same time as having access to the
> rest of physical address space. Attach/detach here really are only
> bookkeeping for which domain currently owns the aperture.

Oh yuk, that is not an UNMANAGED domain either as we now assume empty
UNMANAGED domains are blocking in the core...

> FWIW I wrote up this patch a while ago, not sure if it needs rebasing
> again...

That looks like the same as this patch, just calling the detach dev
behavior IDENTITY. Can do..

Thanks,
Jason

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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Alim Akhtar <alim.akhtar@samsung.com>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org, linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>,
	Orson Zhai <orsonzhai@gmail.com>, Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>,
	Samuel Holland <samuel@sholland.org>,
	Niklas Schnelle <schnelle@linux.ibm.com>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Krishna Reddy <vdumpa@nvidia.com>, Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@csie.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Yong Wu <yong.wu@mediatek.com>,
	Chunyan Zhang <zhang.lyra@gmail.com>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/20] iommu/terga-gart: Replace set_platform_dma_ops() with IOMMU_DOMAIN_PLATFORM
Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 08:01:35 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZFI/D6mnLKYpdIqx@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1db712d2-9e33-4183-2766-34e32f170507@arm.com>

On Wed, May 03, 2023 at 10:17:29AM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 2023-05-01 19:02, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > tegra-gart seems to be kind of wonky since from the start its 'detach_dev'
> > op doesn't actually touch hardware. It is supposed to empty the GART of
> > all translations loaded into it.
> 
> No, detach should never tear down translations - what if other devices are
> still using the domain?

?? All other drivers do this. The core contract is that this sequence:

   dom = iommu_domain_alloc()
   iommu_attach_device(dom, dev)
   iommu_map(dom,...)
   iommu_detach_device(dom, dev)

Will not continue to have the IOVA mapped to the device. We rely on
this for various error paths.

If the HW is multi-device then it is supposed to have groups.

> > Call this weirdness PLATFORM which keeps the basic original
> > ops->detach_dev() semantic alive without needing much special core code
> > support. I'm guessing it really ends up in a BLOCKING configuration, but
> > without any forced cleanup it is unsafe.
> 
> The GART translation aperture is in physical address space, so the truth is
> that all devices have access to it at the same time as having access to the
> rest of physical address space. Attach/detach here really are only
> bookkeeping for which domain currently owns the aperture.

Oh yuk, that is not an UNMANAGED domain either as we now assume empty
UNMANAGED domains are blocking in the core...

> FWIW I wrote up this patch a while ago, not sure if it needs rebasing
> again...

That looks like the same as this patch, just calling the detach dev
behavior IDENTITY. Can do..

Thanks,
Jason

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Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-01 18:02 [PATCH 00/20] iommu: Make default_domain's mandatory Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02 ` [PATCH 01/20] iommu: Add IOMMU_DOMAIN_PLATFORM Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02 ` [PATCH 02/20] iommu/terga-gart: Replace set_platform_dma_ops() with IOMMU_DOMAIN_PLATFORM Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-03  9:17   ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03  9:17     ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03  9:17     ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03 11:01     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-05-03 11:01       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-03 12:01       ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03 12:01         ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03 13:45         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-03 13:45           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-03 14:43           ` Thierry Reding
2023-05-03 14:43             ` Thierry Reding
2023-05-03 17:20             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-03 17:20               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-12  2:55               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2023-05-12  2:55                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2023-05-12 16:49                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-12 16:49                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-12 18:12                   ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-12 18:12                     ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-12 20:52                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-12 20:52                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02 ` [PATCH 03/20] iommu/s390: " Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-02 17:57   ` Niklas Schnelle
2023-05-02 17:57     ` Niklas Schnelle
2023-05-02 17:57     ` Niklas Schnelle
2023-05-01 18:02 ` [PATCH 04/20] iommu/fsl_pamu: " Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-03 10:57   ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03 10:57     ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03 10:57     ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03 12:54     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-03 12:54       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02 ` [PATCH 05/20] iommu: Allow an IDENTITY domain as the default_domain in ARM32 Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-03 13:50   ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03 13:50     ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03 13:50     ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03 14:23     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-03 14:23       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02 ` [PATCH 06/20] iommu/exynos: Implement an IDENTITY domain Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-03 15:31   ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03 15:31     ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03 15:31     ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-04 14:19     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-04 14:19       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02 ` [PATCH 07/20] iommu/tegra-smmu: " Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02 ` [PATCH 08/20] iommu/tegra-smmu: Support DMA domains in tegra Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02 ` [PATCH 09/20] iommu/omap: Implement an IDENTITY domain Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02 ` [PATCH 10/20] iommu/msm: " Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02 ` [PATCH 11/20] iommu/mtk_iommu_v1: " Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02 ` [PATCH 12/20] iommu: Remove ops->set_platform_dma_ops() Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02 ` [PATCH 13/20] iommu/qcom_iommu: Add an IOMMU_IDENTITIY_DOMAIN Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02 ` [PATCH 14/20] iommu/ipmmu: " Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02 ` [PATCH 15/20] iommu/mtk_iommu: " Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:03 ` [PATCH 16/20] iommu/sun50i: " Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:03   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:03   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-03 15:54   ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03 15:54     ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03 15:54     ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03 16:49     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-03 16:49       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:03 ` [PATCH 17/20] iommu: Require a default_domain for all iommu drivers Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:03   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:03   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:03 ` [PATCH 18/20] iommu: Add ops->domain_alloc_paging() Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:03   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:03   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-03 17:17   ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03 17:17     ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03 17:17     ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-03 19:35     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-03 19:35       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-04 12:35       ` Niklas Schnelle
2023-05-04 12:35         ` Niklas Schnelle
2023-05-04 13:14         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-04 13:14           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:03 ` [PATCH 19/20] iommu: Convert simple drivers with DOMAIN_DMA to domain_alloc_paging() Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:03   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:03   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:03 ` [PATCH 20/20] iommu: Convert remaining simple drivers " Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:03   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 18:03   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-02 14:52   ` Niklas Schnelle
2023-05-02 14:52     ` Niklas Schnelle
2023-05-02 14:52     ` Niklas Schnelle
2023-05-02 15:25     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-02 15:25       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-02 18:02       ` Niklas Schnelle
2023-05-02 18:02         ` Niklas Schnelle
2023-05-01 21:34 ` [PATCH 00/20] iommu: Make default_domain's mandatory Heiko Stübner
2023-05-01 21:34   ` Heiko Stübner
2023-05-01 21:34   ` Heiko Stübner
2023-05-01 22:40   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 22:40     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-01 22:10 ` Heiko Stübner
2023-05-01 22:10   ` Heiko Stübner
2023-05-01 22:10   ` Heiko Stübner

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