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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	Sarthak Kukreti <sarthakkukreti@chromium.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>,
	Alasdair Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH v7 0/5] Introduce provisioning primitives
Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 10:41:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZGeKm+jcBxzkMXQs@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZGb2Xi6O3i2pLam8@infradead.org>

On Fri, May 19 2023 at 12:09P -0400,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:

> FYI, I really don't think this primitive is a good idea.  In the
> concept of non-overwritable storage (NAND, SMR drives) the entire
> concept of a one-shoot 'provisioning' that will guarantee later writes
> are always possible is simply bogus.

Valid point for sure, such storage shouldn't advertise support (and
will return -EOPNOTSUPP).

But the primitive still has utility for other classes of storage.

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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Sarthak Kukreti <sarthakkukreti@chromium.org>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Alasdair Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
	Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@google.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/5] Introduce provisioning primitives
Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 10:41:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZGeKm+jcBxzkMXQs@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZGb2Xi6O3i2pLam8@infradead.org>

On Fri, May 19 2023 at 12:09P -0400,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:

> FYI, I really don't think this primitive is a good idea.  In the
> concept of non-overwritable storage (NAND, SMR drives) the entire
> concept of a one-shoot 'provisioning' that will guarantee later writes
> are always possible is simply bogus.

Valid point for sure, such storage shouldn't advertise support (and
will return -EOPNOTSUPP).

But the primitive still has utility for other classes of storage.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-19 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-18 22:33 [dm-devel] [PATCH v7 0/5] Introduce provisioning primitives Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-18 22:33 ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-18 22:33 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH v7 1/5] block: Don't invalidate pagecache for invalid falloc modes Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-18 22:33   ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-19  4:09   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-19  4:09     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-19 15:17   ` [dm-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2023-05-19 15:17     ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-05-18 22:33 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH v7 2/5] block: Introduce provisioning primitives Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-18 22:33   ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-19  4:18   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-19  4:18     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-06-09 20:00   ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2023-06-09 20:00     ` Mike Snitzer
2023-05-18 22:33 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH v7 3/5] dm: Add block provisioning support Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-18 22:33   ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-18 22:33 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH v7 4/5] dm-thin: Add REQ_OP_PROVISION support Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-18 22:33   ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-19 15:23   ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2023-05-19 15:23     ` Mike Snitzer
2023-06-08 21:24     ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2023-06-08 21:24       ` Mike Snitzer
2023-06-09  0:28       ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2023-06-09  0:28         ` Mike Snitzer
2023-05-18 22:33 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH v7 5/5] loop: Add support for provision requests Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-18 22:33   ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-22 16:37   ` [dm-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2023-05-22 16:37     ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-05-22 22:09     ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-22 22:09       ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-23  1:22       ` [dm-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2023-05-23  1:22         ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-10-07  1:29         ` [dm-devel] " Sarthak Kukreti
2023-10-07  1:29           ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-19  4:09 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH v7 0/5] Introduce provisioning primitives Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-19  4:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-19 14:41   ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2023-05-19 14:41     ` Mike Snitzer
2023-05-19 23:07     ` [dm-devel] " Dave Chinner
2023-05-19 23:07       ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-22 18:27       ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2023-05-22 18:27         ` Mike Snitzer
2023-05-23 14:05         ` [dm-devel] " Brian Foster
2023-05-23 14:05           ` Brian Foster
2023-05-23 15:26           ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2023-05-23 15:26             ` Mike Snitzer
2023-05-24  0:40             ` [dm-devel] " Dave Chinner
2023-05-24  0:40               ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-24 20:02               ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2023-05-24 20:02                 ` Mike Snitzer
2023-05-25 11:39                 ` [dm-devel] " Dave Chinner
2023-05-25 11:39                   ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-25 16:00                   ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2023-05-25 16:00                     ` Mike Snitzer
2023-05-25 22:47                     ` [dm-devel] " Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-25 22:47                       ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-26  1:36                       ` [dm-devel] " Dave Chinner
2023-05-26  1:36                         ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-26  2:35                         ` [dm-devel] " Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-26  2:35                           ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-05-26 15:56                           ` [dm-devel] " Brian Foster
2023-05-26 15:56                             ` Brian Foster
2023-05-25 16:19               ` [dm-devel] " Brian Foster
2023-05-25 16:19                 ` Brian Foster
2023-05-26  9:37                 ` [dm-devel] " Dave Chinner
2023-05-26  9:37                   ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-26 11:04                   ` [dm-devel] " Joe Thornber
2023-05-26 23:45                     ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-26 23:45                       ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-30  7:27                       ` [dm-devel] " Joe Thornber
2023-05-30 14:02                         ` Mike Snitzer
2023-05-30 14:02                           ` Mike Snitzer
2023-05-30 14:55                           ` [dm-devel] " Joe Thornber
2023-05-30 15:28                             ` Mike Snitzer
2023-05-30 15:28                               ` Mike Snitzer
2023-06-02 18:44                               ` [dm-devel] " Sarthak Kukreti
2023-06-02 18:44                                 ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-06-02 21:50                                 ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2023-06-02 21:50                                   ` Mike Snitzer
2023-06-03  0:52                                 ` [dm-devel] " Dave Chinner
2023-06-03  0:52                                   ` Dave Chinner
2023-06-03 15:57                                   ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2023-06-03 15:57                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2023-06-05 21:14                                     ` [dm-devel] " Sarthak Kukreti
2023-06-05 21:14                                       ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-06-07  2:15                                       ` [dm-devel] " Dave Chinner
2023-06-07  2:15                                         ` Dave Chinner
2023-06-07 23:27                                       ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2023-06-07 23:27                                         ` Mike Snitzer
2023-06-09 20:31                                         ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2023-06-09 20:31                                           ` Mike Snitzer
2023-06-09 21:54                                           ` [dm-devel] " Dave Chinner
2023-06-09 21:54                                             ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-07  1:30                                           ` [dm-devel] " Sarthak Kukreti
2023-10-07  1:30                                             ` Sarthak Kukreti
2023-06-07  2:01                                     ` [dm-devel] " Dave Chinner
2023-06-07  2:01                                       ` Dave Chinner
2023-06-07 23:50                                       ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2023-06-07 23:50                                         ` Mike Snitzer
2023-06-09  3:32                                         ` [dm-devel] " Dave Chinner
2023-06-09  3:32                                           ` Dave Chinner
2023-06-08  2:03                                   ` [dm-devel] " Martin K. Petersen
2023-06-08  2:03                                     ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-06-09  0:10                                     ` [dm-devel] " Dave Chinner
2023-06-09  0:10                                       ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-26 15:47                   ` [dm-devel] " Brian Foster
2023-05-26 15:47                     ` Brian Foster

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