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From: Ashok Raj <ashok_raj@linux.intel.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Arjan van de Veen <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/6] Cure kexec() vs. mwait_play_dead() troubles
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:21:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZICuhZHCqSYvR4IO@araj-dh-work> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pm694jmg.ffs@tglx>

On Tue, Jun 06, 2023 at 12:41:43AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 05 2023 at 10:41, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 03, 2023, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> >> This is only half safe because HLT can resume execution due to NMI, SMI and
> >> MCE. Unfortunately there is no real safe mechanism to "park" a CPU reliably,
> >
> > On Intel.  On AMD, enabling EFER.SVME and doing CLGI will block everything except
> > single-step #DB (lol) and RESET.  #MC handling is implementation-dependent and
> > *might* cause shutdown, but at least there's a chance it will work.  And presumably
> > modern CPUs do pend the #MC until GIF=1.
> 
> Abusing SVME for that is definitely in the realm of creative bonus
> points, but not necessarily a general purpose solution.
> 
> >> So parking them via INIT is not completely solving the problem, but it
> >> takes at least NMI and SMI out of the picture.
> >
> > Don't most SMM handlers rendezvous all CPUs?  I.e. won't blocking SMIs indefinitely
> > potentially cause problems too?
> 
> Not that I'm aware of. If so then this would be a hideous firmware bug
> as firmware must be aware of CPUs which hang around in INIT independent
> of this.

SMM does do the rendezvous of all CPUs, but also has a way to detect the
blocked ones, in WFS via some package scoped ubox register. So it knows to
skip those. I can find this in internal sources, but they aren't available
in the edk2 open reference code. They happen to be documented only in the
BWG, which isn't available freely.

I believe its behind the GetSmmDelayedBlockedDisabledCount()->
	SmmCpuFeaturesGetSmmRegister() 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-07 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-03 20:06 [patch 0/6] Cure kexec() vs. mwait_play_dead() troubles Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-03 20:06 ` [patch 1/6] x86/smp: Remove pointless wmb() from native_stop_other_cpus() Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-03 20:06 ` [patch 2/6] x86/smp: Acquire stopping_cpu unconditionally Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-03 20:07 ` [patch 3/6] x86/smp: Use dedicated cache-line for mwait_play_dead() Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-03 20:07 ` [patch 4/6] x86/smp: Cure kexec() vs. mwait_play_dead() breakage Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-03 20:54   ` Ashok Raj
2023-06-04  3:19   ` Ashok Raj
2023-06-05  7:41     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-03 20:07 ` [patch 5/6] x86/smp: Split sending INIT IPI out into a helper function Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-04  4:02   ` Mika Penttilä
2023-06-04 10:24     ` Ashok Raj
2023-06-05  7:54     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05  8:23   ` [patch v2 " Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-03 20:07 ` [patch 6/6] x86/smp: Put CPUs into INIT on shutdown if possible Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-03 20:57   ` Ashok Raj
2023-06-05 17:41 ` [patch 0/6] Cure kexec() vs. mwait_play_dead() troubles Sean Christopherson
2023-06-05 22:41   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 23:08     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-06  7:20       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-07 16:21     ` Ashok Raj [this message]
2023-06-07 17:33       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-07 22:19         ` Ashok Raj
2023-06-08  3:46           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-08  4:03             ` Ashok Raj
2023-06-16 15:07             ` Ashok Raj
2023-06-16 19:00               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-16 19:03                 ` Ashok Raj
2023-06-16 19:08                   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-09  8:40         ` Paolo Bonzini

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