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From: Wolfram Sang <wsa@kernel.org>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: "Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Andrzej Hajda" <andrzej.hajda@intel.com>,
	"Neil Armstrong" <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	"Robert Foss" <rfoss@kernel.org>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"Kieran Bingham" <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Mauro Carvalho Chehab" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	"Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl>,
	"Alessandro Zummo" <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
	"Alexandre Belloni" <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	"Jonas Karlman" <jonas@kwiboo.se>,
	"Jernej Skrabec" <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	"Corey Minyard" <cminyard@mvista.com>,
	"Marek Behún" <kabel@kernel.org>,
	"Jiasheng Jiang" <jiasheng@iscas.ac.cn>,
	"Antonio Borneo" <antonio.borneo@foss.st.com>,
	"Abhinav Kumar" <quic_abhinavk@quicinc.com>,
	"Ahmad Fatoum" <a.fatoum@pengutronix.de>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org" <linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Fabrizio Castro" <fabrizio.castro.jz@renesas.com>,
	"linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 01/11] i2c: Enhance i2c_new_ancillary_device API
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 14:48:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZIcUEdctlgRsGxJ3@ninjato> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdV_iwdP+K1us86OB4VtDDqA=P_vNeCP15kqRuXqcYr3hg@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi Geert,

> > Would this binding allow to not use the RTC if the second reg is
> > missing? What are the advantages of not enabling RTC? Saving power?
> 
> It doesn't work if there is no clock?

Maybe I am confusing something now, but if the RTC _needs_ to be
enabled, then why we don't do it unconditionally?

> > Thinking more about this: DT is hardware description, so the RTC should
> > always be described in DT. If the RTC is actually activated is more a
> > configuration thing, or? Brainstorming: maybe the PMIC driver could try
> > to find the node with reg == 0x6f and see if firmware has enabled it or
> > not?
> 
> I guess the RTC part would acknowledge anyway?
> It is always present, it is just part of the RAA215300.

I mean the driver should scan for the DT node. Not on the bus. But a
phandle is probably safer.

> Sure, you can put that in DT.  But it's a pity you have to do that,
> as the device (the PMIC part) does know the revision...
> That's why I suggested to let the PMIC part instantiate an i2c ancillary
> device...

I see. I'll let it sink in some more.

Happy hacking,

   Wolfram


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From: Wolfram Sang <wsa@kernel.org>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: "Corey Minyard" <cminyard@mvista.com>,
	"Antonio Borneo" <antonio.borneo@foss.st.com>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	"Alexandre Belloni" <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Andrzej Hajda" <andrzej.hajda@intel.com>,
	"Marek Behún" <kabel@kernel.org>,
	"Robert Foss" <rfoss@kernel.org>,
	"Jonas Karlman" <jonas@kwiboo.se>,
	"Kieran Bingham" <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Jernej Skrabec" <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	"linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Alessandro Zummo" <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
	"Jiasheng Jiang" <jiasheng@iscas.ac.cn>,
	"Abhinav Kumar" <quic_abhinavk@quicinc.com>,
	"Fabrizio Castro" <fabrizio.castro.jz@renesas.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Ahmad Fatoum" <a.fatoum@pengutronix.de>,
	"Mauro Carvalho Chehab" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	"Neil Armstrong" <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	"linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl>,
	"linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org" <linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 01/11] i2c: Enhance i2c_new_ancillary_device API
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 14:48:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZIcUEdctlgRsGxJ3@ninjato> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdV_iwdP+K1us86OB4VtDDqA=P_vNeCP15kqRuXqcYr3hg@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi Geert,

> > Would this binding allow to not use the RTC if the second reg is
> > missing? What are the advantages of not enabling RTC? Saving power?
> 
> It doesn't work if there is no clock?

Maybe I am confusing something now, but if the RTC _needs_ to be
enabled, then why we don't do it unconditionally?

> > Thinking more about this: DT is hardware description, so the RTC should
> > always be described in DT. If the RTC is actually activated is more a
> > configuration thing, or? Brainstorming: maybe the PMIC driver could try
> > to find the node with reg == 0x6f and see if firmware has enabled it or
> > not?
> 
> I guess the RTC part would acknowledge anyway?
> It is always present, it is just part of the RAA215300.

I mean the driver should scan for the DT node. Not on the bus. But a
phandle is probably safer.

> Sure, you can put that in DT.  But it's a pity you have to do that,
> as the device (the PMIC part) does know the revision...
> That's why I suggested to let the PMIC part instantiate an i2c ancillary
> device...

I see. I'll let it sink in some more.

Happy hacking,

   Wolfram


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-12 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-22 10:18 [PATCH v5 00/11] Add Renesas PMIC RAA215300 and built-in RTC support Biju Das
2023-05-22 10:18 ` [PATCH v5 01/11] i2c: Enhance i2c_new_ancillary_device API Biju Das
2023-05-22 10:18   ` Biju Das
2023-05-23  9:50   ` Hans Verkuil
2023-05-23  9:50     ` Hans Verkuil
2023-05-25 16:49   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-25 16:49     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-29  8:05   ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-05-29  8:05     ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-05-29  9:00     ` Biju Das
2023-05-29  9:00       ` Biju Das
2023-05-31  8:59       ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-05-31  8:59         ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-05-31  9:34         ` Biju Das
2023-05-31  9:34           ` Biju Das
2023-05-31 11:41           ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-05-31 11:41             ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-05-31 12:53             ` Biju Das
2023-05-31 12:53               ` Biju Das
2023-05-31 13:35               ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-05-31 13:35                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-05-31 13:44                 ` Biju Das
2023-05-31 13:44                   ` Biju Das
2023-06-02  7:40                   ` Biju Das
2023-06-02  7:40                     ` Biju Das
2023-05-31 13:37               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-31 13:37                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-31 13:47                 ` Biju Das
2023-05-31 13:47                   ` Biju Das
2023-05-31 12:51         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-31 12:51           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-31 13:37           ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-05-31 13:37             ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-05-31 13:39             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-31 13:39               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-05  9:30           ` Wolfram Sang
2023-06-05  9:30             ` Wolfram Sang
2023-06-07  8:53           ` Wolfram Sang
2023-06-07  8:53             ` Wolfram Sang
2023-06-07 10:58             ` Biju Das
2023-06-07 10:58               ` Biju Das
2023-06-08  6:41               ` Biju Das
2023-06-08  6:41                 ` Biju Das
2023-06-08 10:39                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-08 10:39                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-08 11:00                   ` Biju Das
2023-06-08 11:00                     ` Biju Das
2023-06-08 12:50                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-08 12:50                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-08 12:57                       ` Biju Das
2023-06-08 12:57                         ` Biju Das
2023-06-12  9:53                         ` Biju Das
2023-06-12  9:53                           ` Biju Das
2023-06-12 12:23                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-12 12:23                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-12 12:42                             ` Biju Das
2023-06-12 12:42                               ` Biju Das
2023-06-12 12:54                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-12 12:54                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-12 13:08                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-12 13:08                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-12 13:19                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-12 13:19                                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-12 12:44                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-12 12:44                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-12 13:02                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-12 13:02                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-12 12:35                           ` Wolfram Sang
2023-06-12 12:35                             ` Wolfram Sang
2023-06-12 12:42                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-12 12:42                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-12 12:48                               ` Wolfram Sang [this message]
2023-06-12 12:48                                 ` Wolfram Sang
2023-06-12 13:00                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-12 13:00                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-12 20:43                                   ` Wolfram Sang
2023-06-12 20:43                                     ` Wolfram Sang
2023-06-13  7:24                                     ` Biju Das
2023-06-13  7:24                                       ` Biju Das
2023-06-13 17:57                                       ` Biju Das
2023-06-13 17:57                                         ` Biju Das
2023-06-13 19:31                                         ` Biju Das
2023-06-13 19:31                                           ` Biju Das
2023-06-14  8:13                                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-14  8:13                                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-14  8:21                                             ` Biju Das
2023-06-14  8:21                                               ` Biju Das
2023-06-14  9:18                                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-14  9:18                                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-14 11:04                                                 ` Biju Das
2023-06-14 11:04                                                   ` Biju Das
2023-06-15  9:00                                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-15  9:00                                                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-14  9:54                                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-14  9:54                                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-14 11:30                                                 ` Biju Das
2023-06-14 11:30                                                   ` Biju Das
2023-06-15  9:26                                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-15  9:26                                                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-20  8:06                                                     ` Biju Das
2023-06-20  8:06                                                       ` Biju Das
2023-06-13  7:25                                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-13 10:45                                       ` Biju Das
2023-06-13 14:51                                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-13 14:51                                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-13 16:11                                           ` Biju Das
2023-06-13 16:11                                             ` Biju Das
2023-06-14  7:53                                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-14  7:53                                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-14  8:02                                               ` Biju Das
2023-06-14  8:02                                                 ` Biju Das
2023-06-15  8:07                                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-15  8:07                                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-15  9:23                                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-15  9:23                                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-06-16  6:32                                                   ` Wolfram Sang
2023-06-16  6:32                                                     ` Wolfram Sang
2023-06-19  8:17                                                     ` Biju Das
2023-06-19  8:17                                                       ` Biju Das
2023-06-12 13:00                             ` Biju Das
2023-06-12 13:00                               ` Biju Das
2023-05-22 10:18 ` [PATCH v5 02/11] dt-bindings: rtc: isl1208: Convert to json-schema Biju Das
2023-05-22 10:18 ` [PATCH v5 03/11] dt-bindings: rtc: isil,isl1208: Document clock and clock-names properties Biju Das
2023-05-25 16:52   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-22 10:18 ` [PATCH v5 04/11] rtc: isl1208: Drop name variable Biju Das
2023-05-22 10:18 ` [PATCH v5 05/11] rtc: isl1208: Make similar I2C and DT-based matching table Biju Das
2023-05-22 10:18 ` [PATCH v5 06/11] rtc: isl1208: Drop enum isl1208_id and split isl1208_configs[] Biju Das
2023-05-22 10:18 ` [PATCH v5 07/11] rtc: isl1208: Add isl1208_set_xtoscb() Biju Das
2023-05-26  7:20   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-30 16:48     ` Biju Das
2023-05-22 10:18 ` [PATCH v5 08/11] rtc: isl1208: Add support for the built-in RTC on the PMIC RAA215300 Biju Das
2023-05-26  7:35   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-30 17:28     ` Biju Das
2023-05-22 10:18 ` [PATCH v5 09/11] regulator: dt-bindings: Add Renesas RAA215300 PMIC bindings Biju Das
2023-05-26  7:37   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-22 10:18 ` [PATCH v5 10/11] regulator: Add Renesas PMIC RAA215300 driver Biju Das
2023-05-24 10:57   ` Mark Brown
2023-05-24 13:26     ` Biju Das
2023-05-22 10:18 ` [PATCH v5 11/11] arm64: dts: renesas: rzg2l-smarc-som: Enable PMIC and built-in RTC Biju Das
2023-05-26  7:55   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-26  8:48     ` Biju Das
2023-05-30 18:26 ` [PATCH v5 00/11] Add Renesas PMIC RAA215300 and built-in RTC support Biju Das

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