From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: "Kubalewski, Arkadiusz" <arkadiusz.kubalewski@intel.com>
Cc: Vadim Fedorenko <vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"Olech, Milena" <milena.olech@intel.com>,
"Michalik, Michal" <michal.michalik@intel.com>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>, poros <poros@redhat.com>,
mschmidt <mschmidt@redhat.com>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-clk@vger.kernel.org" <linux-clk@vger.kernel.org>,
Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/11] ice: implement dpll interface to control cgu
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 08:57:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZMn+Uvu8B6IcCFoj@nanopsycho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR11MB4657C0DA91583D92697324BC9B0AA@DM6PR11MB4657.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Tue, Aug 01, 2023 at 04:50:44PM CEST, arkadiusz.kubalewski@intel.com wrote:
>>From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
>>Sent: Monday, July 31, 2023 2:20 PM
>>
>>Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 01:03:59AM CEST, arkadiusz.kubalewski@intel.com wrote:
>>>>From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
>>>>Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 1:39 PM
>>>>
>>>>Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 11:19:01AM CEST, vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev wrote:
>>>>>From: Arkadiusz Kubalewski <arkadiusz.kubalewski@intel.com>
>>>
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>
>>>>>+static int ice_dpll_cb_lock(struct ice_pf *pf, struct netlink_ext_ack
>>>>>*extack)
>>>>>+{
>>>>>+ int i;
>>>>>+
>>>>>+ for (i = 0; i < ICE_DPLL_LOCK_TRIES; i++) {
>>>>>+ if (!test_bit(ICE_FLAG_DPLL, pf->flags)) {
>>>>
>>>>And again, as I already told you, this flag checking is totally
>>>>pointless. See below my comment to ice_dpll_init()/ice_dpll_deinit().
>>>>
>>>
>>>This is not pointless, will explain below.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>[...]
>>>
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>
>>>>>+void ice_dpll_deinit(struct ice_pf *pf)
>>>>>+{
>>>>>+ bool cgu = ice_is_feature_supported(pf, ICE_F_CGU);
>>>>>+
>>>>>+ if (!test_bit(ICE_FLAG_DPLL, pf->flags))
>>>>>+ return;
>>>>>+ clear_bit(ICE_FLAG_DPLL, pf->flags);
>>>>>+
>>>>>+ ice_dpll_deinit_pins(pf, cgu);
>>>>>+ ice_dpll_deinit_dpll(pf, &pf->dplls.pps, cgu);
>>>>>+ ice_dpll_deinit_dpll(pf, &pf->dplls.eec, cgu);
>>>>>+ ice_dpll_deinit_info(pf);
>>>>>+ if (cgu)
>>>>>+ ice_dpll_deinit_worker(pf);
>>>>
>>>>Could you please order the ice_dpll_deinit() to be symmetrical to
>>>>ice_dpll_init()? Then, you can drop ICE_FLAG_DPLL flag entirely, as the
>>>>ice_dpll_periodic_work() function is the only reason why you need it
>>>>currently.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Not true.
>>>The feature flag is common approach in ice. If the feature was successfully
>>
>>The fact that something is common does not necessarily mean it is
>>correct. 0 value argument.
>>
>
>Like using functions that unwrap netlink attributes as unsigned when
>they are in fact enums with possibility of being signed?
Looks this is bothering you, sorry about that.
>
>This is about consistent approach in ice driver.
>
>>
>>>initialized the flag is set. It allows to determine if deinit of the feature
>>>is required on driver unload.
>>>
>>>Right now the check for the flag is not only in kworker but also in each
>>>callback, if the flag were cleared the data shall be not accessed by
>>>callbacks.
>>
>>Could you please draw me a scenario when this could actually happen?
>>It is just a matter of ordering. Unregister dpll device/pins before you
>>cleanup the related resources and you don't need this ridiculous flag.
>>
>
>Flag allows to determine if dpll was successfully initialized and do proper
>deinit on rmmod only if it was initialized. That's all.
You are not answering my question. I asked about how the flag helps is
you do unregister dpll devices/pins and you free related resources in
the correct order. Because that is why you claim you need this flag.
I'm tired of this. Keep your driver tangled for all I care, I'm trying
to help you, obviously you are not interested.
>
>>
>>>I know this is not required, but it helps on loading and unloading the
>>>driver,
>>>thanks to that, spam of pin-get dump is not slowing the driver
>>>load/unload.
>>
>>? Could you plese draw me a scenario how such thing may actually happen?
>
>First of all I said it is not required.
>
>I already draw you this with above sentence.
>You need spam pin-get asynchronously and unload driver, what is not clear?
>Basically mutex in dpll is a bottleneck, with multiple requests waiting for
>mutex there is low change of driver getting mutex when doing unregisters.
How exactly your flag helps you in this scenario? It does not.
>
>We actually need to redesign the mutex in dpll core/netlink, but I guess after
>initial submission.
Why?
>
>Thank you!
>Arkadiusz
>
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>+ mutex_destroy(&pf->dplls.lock);
>>>>>+}
>>
>>
>>[...]
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From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: "Kubalewski, Arkadiusz" <arkadiusz.kubalewski@intel.com>
Cc: Vadim Fedorenko <vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"Olech, Milena" <milena.olech@intel.com>,
"Michalik, Michal" <michal.michalik@intel.com>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>, poros <poros@redhat.com>,
mschmidt <mschmidt@redhat.com>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-clk@vger.kernel.org" <linux-clk@vger.kernel.org>,
Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/11] ice: implement dpll interface to control cgu
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 08:57:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZMn+Uvu8B6IcCFoj@nanopsycho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR11MB4657C0DA91583D92697324BC9B0AA@DM6PR11MB4657.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Tue, Aug 01, 2023 at 04:50:44PM CEST, arkadiusz.kubalewski@intel.com wrote:
>>From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
>>Sent: Monday, July 31, 2023 2:20 PM
>>
>>Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 01:03:59AM CEST, arkadiusz.kubalewski@intel.com wrote:
>>>>From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
>>>>Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 1:39 PM
>>>>
>>>>Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 11:19:01AM CEST, vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev wrote:
>>>>>From: Arkadiusz Kubalewski <arkadiusz.kubalewski@intel.com>
>>>
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>
>>>>>+static int ice_dpll_cb_lock(struct ice_pf *pf, struct netlink_ext_ack
>>>>>*extack)
>>>>>+{
>>>>>+ int i;
>>>>>+
>>>>>+ for (i = 0; i < ICE_DPLL_LOCK_TRIES; i++) {
>>>>>+ if (!test_bit(ICE_FLAG_DPLL, pf->flags)) {
>>>>
>>>>And again, as I already told you, this flag checking is totally
>>>>pointless. See below my comment to ice_dpll_init()/ice_dpll_deinit().
>>>>
>>>
>>>This is not pointless, will explain below.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>[...]
>>>
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>
>>>>>+void ice_dpll_deinit(struct ice_pf *pf)
>>>>>+{
>>>>>+ bool cgu = ice_is_feature_supported(pf, ICE_F_CGU);
>>>>>+
>>>>>+ if (!test_bit(ICE_FLAG_DPLL, pf->flags))
>>>>>+ return;
>>>>>+ clear_bit(ICE_FLAG_DPLL, pf->flags);
>>>>>+
>>>>>+ ice_dpll_deinit_pins(pf, cgu);
>>>>>+ ice_dpll_deinit_dpll(pf, &pf->dplls.pps, cgu);
>>>>>+ ice_dpll_deinit_dpll(pf, &pf->dplls.eec, cgu);
>>>>>+ ice_dpll_deinit_info(pf);
>>>>>+ if (cgu)
>>>>>+ ice_dpll_deinit_worker(pf);
>>>>
>>>>Could you please order the ice_dpll_deinit() to be symmetrical to
>>>>ice_dpll_init()? Then, you can drop ICE_FLAG_DPLL flag entirely, as the
>>>>ice_dpll_periodic_work() function is the only reason why you need it
>>>>currently.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Not true.
>>>The feature flag is common approach in ice. If the feature was successfully
>>
>>The fact that something is common does not necessarily mean it is
>>correct. 0 value argument.
>>
>
>Like using functions that unwrap netlink attributes as unsigned when
>they are in fact enums with possibility of being signed?
Looks this is bothering you, sorry about that.
>
>This is about consistent approach in ice driver.
>
>>
>>>initialized the flag is set. It allows to determine if deinit of the feature
>>>is required on driver unload.
>>>
>>>Right now the check for the flag is not only in kworker but also in each
>>>callback, if the flag were cleared the data shall be not accessed by
>>>callbacks.
>>
>>Could you please draw me a scenario when this could actually happen?
>>It is just a matter of ordering. Unregister dpll device/pins before you
>>cleanup the related resources and you don't need this ridiculous flag.
>>
>
>Flag allows to determine if dpll was successfully initialized and do proper
>deinit on rmmod only if it was initialized. That's all.
You are not answering my question. I asked about how the flag helps is
you do unregister dpll devices/pins and you free related resources in
the correct order. Because that is why you claim you need this flag.
I'm tired of this. Keep your driver tangled for all I care, I'm trying
to help you, obviously you are not interested.
>
>>
>>>I know this is not required, but it helps on loading and unloading the
>>>driver,
>>>thanks to that, spam of pin-get dump is not slowing the driver
>>>load/unload.
>>
>>? Could you plese draw me a scenario how such thing may actually happen?
>
>First of all I said it is not required.
>
>I already draw you this with above sentence.
>You need spam pin-get asynchronously and unload driver, what is not clear?
>Basically mutex in dpll is a bottleneck, with multiple requests waiting for
>mutex there is low change of driver getting mutex when doing unregisters.
How exactly your flag helps you in this scenario? It does not.
>
>We actually need to redesign the mutex in dpll core/netlink, but I guess after
>initial submission.
Why?
>
>Thank you!
>Arkadiusz
>
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>+ mutex_destroy(&pf->dplls.lock);
>>>>>+}
>>
>>
>>[...]
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2023-07-20 9:18 [PATCH net-next 00/11] Create common DPLL configuration API Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 9:18 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 9:18 ` [PATCH net-next 01/11] tools: ynl-gen: fix enum index in _decode_enum(..) Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 9:18 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 13:40 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-20 13:40 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-20 13:58 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-20 13:58 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-20 14:48 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 14:48 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 9:18 ` [PATCH net-next 02/11] tools: ynl-gen: fix parse multi-attr enum attribute Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 9:18 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 9:18 ` [PATCH net-next 03/11] dpll: documentation on DPLL subsystem interface Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 9:18 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 13:47 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-20 13:47 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-20 9:18 ` [PATCH net-next 04/11] dpll: spec: Add Netlink spec in YAML Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 9:18 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-24 15:52 ` Simon Horman
2023-07-20 9:18 ` [PATCH net-next 05/11] dpll: core: Add DPLL framework base functions Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 9:18 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-24 15:56 ` Simon Horman
2023-07-20 9:18 ` [PATCH net-next 06/11] dpll: netlink: " Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 9:18 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-24 16:34 ` Simon Horman
2023-08-01 12:23 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-08-01 12:23 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-20 9:18 ` [PATCH net-next 07/11] netdev: expose DPLL pin handle for netdevice Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 9:18 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-08-01 13:23 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-08-01 13:23 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-08-01 15:12 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-08-01 15:12 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 9:19 ` [PATCH net-next 08/11] ice: add admin commands to access cgu configuration Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 9:19 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-24 17:21 ` Simon Horman
2023-07-28 12:46 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-28 12:46 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-20 9:19 ` [PATCH 09/11] ice: implement dpll interface to control cgu Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 9:19 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 14:08 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-20 14:08 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-20 17:31 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-20 17:31 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-21 7:33 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-21 7:33 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-21 11:17 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-21 11:17 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-21 12:02 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-21 12:02 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-21 13:36 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-21 13:36 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-21 15:45 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-21 15:45 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-21 19:48 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-21 19:48 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-22 6:37 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-22 6:37 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-24 15:03 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-25 8:03 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-25 14:01 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-26 6:38 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-26 21:11 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-27 10:28 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-27 10:28 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-25 22:49 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-26 15:20 ` Paolo Abeni
2023-07-26 21:10 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-31 12:08 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-31 12:08 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-26 21:08 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-31 12:11 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-31 12:11 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-22 2:08 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-22 2:08 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-21 11:39 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-21 11:39 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-28 23:03 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-28 23:03 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-31 12:19 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-31 12:19 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-08-01 14:50 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-08-01 14:50 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-08-02 6:57 ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2023-08-02 6:57 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-08-02 15:48 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-08-02 15:48 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-08-03 8:02 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-08-03 8:02 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-08-04 8:58 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-08-04 8:58 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-24 17:41 ` Simon Horman
2023-07-24 17:58 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-28 23:10 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-28 23:10 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-07-20 9:19 ` [PATCH 10/11] ptp_ocp: implement DPLL ops Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 9:19 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-21 15:51 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-21 15:51 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-20 9:19 ` [PATCH 11/11] mlx5: Implement SyncE support using DPLL infrastructure Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-20 9:19 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-21 7:48 ` [PATCH net-next 00/11] Create common DPLL configuration API Jiri Pirko
2023-07-21 7:48 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-21 11:14 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-21 11:14 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-07-21 14:42 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-21 14:42 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-07-21 15:46 ` Jiri Pirko
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