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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: Like Xu <like.xu.linux@gmail.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ben Gardon <bgardon@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	intel-gvt-dev@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 19/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Use page-track notifiers iff there are external users
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:41:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZNUFGljM5oet11xN@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZNRTO0hY8GJBrnOg@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com>

On Thu, Aug 10, 2023, Yan Zhao wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 07:21:03AM +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > > Reading the value after acquiring mmu_lock ensures that both vCPUs will see whatever
> > > value "loses" the race, i.e. whatever written value is processed second ('Y' in the
> > > above sequence).
> > I suspect that vCPU0 may still generate a wrong SPTE if vCPU1 wrote 4
> > bytes while vCPU0 wrote 8 bytes, though the chances are very low.
> > 
> This could happen in below sequence:
> vCPU0 updates a PTE to AABBCCDD;
> vCPU1 updates a PTE to EEFFGGHH in two writes.
> (each character stands for a byte)
> 
> vCPU0                  vCPU1   
> write AABBCCDD
>                        write GGHH
>                        detect 4 bytes write and hold on sync
> sync SPTE w/ AABBGGHH
>                        write EEFF
>                        sync SPTE w/ EEFFGGHH
> 
> 
> Do you think it worth below serialization work?

No, because I don't see any KVM bugs with the above sequence.  If the guest doesn't
ensure *all* writes from vCPU0 and vCPU1 are fully serialized, then it is completely
legal for hardware (KVM in this case) to consume AABBGGHH as a PTE.  The only thing
the guest shouldn't see is EEFFCCDD, but I don't see how that can happen.

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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: Like Xu <like.xu.linux@gmail.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Zhenyu Wang <zhenyuw@linux.intel.com>,
	Ben Gardon <bgardon@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	intel-gvt-dev@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Zhi Wang <zhi.a.wang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 19/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Use page-track notifiers iff there are external users
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:41:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZNUFGljM5oet11xN@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZNRTO0hY8GJBrnOg@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com>

On Thu, Aug 10, 2023, Yan Zhao wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 07:21:03AM +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > > Reading the value after acquiring mmu_lock ensures that both vCPUs will see whatever
> > > value "loses" the race, i.e. whatever written value is processed second ('Y' in the
> > > above sequence).
> > I suspect that vCPU0 may still generate a wrong SPTE if vCPU1 wrote 4
> > bytes while vCPU0 wrote 8 bytes, though the chances are very low.
> > 
> This could happen in below sequence:
> vCPU0 updates a PTE to AABBCCDD;
> vCPU1 updates a PTE to EEFFGGHH in two writes.
> (each character stands for a byte)
> 
> vCPU0                  vCPU1   
> write AABBCCDD
>                        write GGHH
>                        detect 4 bytes write and hold on sync
> sync SPTE w/ AABBGGHH
>                        write EEFF
>                        sync SPTE w/ EEFFGGHH
> 
> 
> Do you think it worth below serialization work?

No, because I don't see any KVM bugs with the above sequence.  If the guest doesn't
ensure *all* writes from vCPU0 and vCPU1 are fully serialized, then it is completely
legal for hardware (KVM in this case) to consume AABBGGHH as a PTE.  The only thing
the guest shouldn't see is EEFFCCDD, but I don't see how that can happen.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-10 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-23  0:57 [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 00/27] drm/i915/gvt: KVM: KVMGT fixes and page-track cleanups Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 01/27] drm/i915/gvt: Verify pfn is "valid" before dereferencing "struct page" Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 02/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Factor out helper to get max mapping size of a memslot Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 03/27] drm/i915/gvt: Incorporate KVM memslot info into check for 2MiB GTT entry Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-28  5:42   ` [Intel-gfx] " Yan Zhao
2022-12-28  5:42     ` Yan Zhao
2023-01-03 21:13     ` [Intel-gfx] " Sean Christopherson
2023-01-03 21:13       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-01-05  3:07       ` [Intel-gfx] " Yan Zhao
2023-01-05  3:07         ` Yan Zhao
2023-01-05 17:40         ` [Intel-gfx] " Sean Christopherson
2023-01-05 17:40           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-01-06  5:56           ` [Intel-gfx] " Yan Zhao
2023-01-06  5:56             ` Yan Zhao
2023-01-06 23:01             ` [Intel-gfx] " Sean Christopherson
2023-01-06 23:01               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-01-09  9:58               ` [Intel-gfx] " Yan Zhao
2023-01-09  9:58                 ` Yan Zhao
2023-01-11 17:55                 ` [Intel-gfx] " Sean Christopherson
2023-01-11 17:55                   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-01-19  2:58                   ` [Intel-gfx] " Zhenyu Wang
2023-01-19  2:58                     ` Zhenyu Wang
2023-01-19  5:26                     ` [Intel-gfx] " Yan Zhao
2023-01-19  5:26                       ` Yan Zhao
2023-02-23 20:41                       ` [Intel-gfx] " Sean Christopherson
2023-02-23 20:41                         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-24  5:09                         ` [Intel-gfx] " Yan Zhao
2023-02-24  5:09                           ` Yan Zhao
2023-01-12  8:31         ` [Intel-gfx] " Yan Zhao
2023-01-12  8:31           ` Yan Zhao
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 04/27] drm/i915/gvt: Verify VFIO-pinned page is THP when shadowing 2M gtt entry Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 05/27] drm/i915/gvt: Put the page reference obtained by KVM's gfn_to_pfn() Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 06/27] drm/i915/gvt: Don't rely on KVM's gfn_to_pfn() to query possible 2M GTT Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 07/27] drm/i915/gvt: Use an "unsigned long" to iterate over memslot gfns Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 08/27] drm/i915/gvt: Hoist acquisition of vgpu_lock out to kvmgt_page_track_write() Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 09/27] drm/i915/gvt: Protect gfn hash table with dedicated mutex Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-28  5:03   ` [Intel-gfx] " Yan Zhao
2022-12-28  5:03     ` Yan Zhao
2023-01-03 20:43     ` [Intel-gfx] " Sean Christopherson
2023-01-03 20:43       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-01-05  0:51       ` [Intel-gfx] " Yan Zhao
2023-01-05  0:51         ` Yan Zhao
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 10/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Don't rely on page-track mechanism to flush on memslot change Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 11/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Don't bounce through page-track mechanism for guest PTEs Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 12/27] KVM: drm/i915/gvt: Drop @vcpu from KVM's ->track_write() hook Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 13/27] KVM: x86: Reject memslot MOVE operations if KVMGT is attached Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 14/27] drm/i915/gvt: Don't bother removing write-protection on to-be-deleted slot Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 15/27] KVM: x86: Add a new page-track hook to handle memslot deletion Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 16/27] drm/i915/gvt: switch from ->track_flush_slot() to ->track_remove_region() Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 17/27] KVM: x86: Remove the unused page-track hook track_flush_slot() Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 18/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Move KVM-only page-track declarations to internal header Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 19/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Use page-track notifiers iff there are external users Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-28  6:56   ` [Intel-gfx] " Yan Zhao
2022-12-28  6:56     ` Yan Zhao
2023-01-04  0:50     ` [Intel-gfx] " Sean Christopherson
2023-01-04  0:50       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-07 12:01   ` [Intel-gfx] " Like Xu
2023-08-07 12:01     ` Like Xu
2023-08-07 17:19     ` [Intel-gfx] " Sean Christopherson
2023-08-07 17:19       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-09  1:02       ` [Intel-gfx] " Yan Zhao
2023-08-09  1:02         ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-09 14:33         ` [Intel-gfx] " Sean Christopherson
2023-08-09 14:33           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-09 23:21           ` [Intel-gfx] " Yan Zhao
2023-08-09 23:21             ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-10  3:02             ` [Intel-gfx] " Yan Zhao
2023-08-10  3:02               ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-10 15:41               ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2023-08-10 15:41                 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-11  5:57                 ` [Intel-gfx] " Yan Zhao
2023-08-11  5:57                   ` Yan Zhao
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 20/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Drop infrastructure for multiple page-track modes Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 21/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Rename page-track APIs to reflect the new reality Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 22/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Assert that correct locks are held for page write-tracking Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 23/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Bug the VM if write-tracking is used but not enabled Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 24/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Drop @slot param from exported/external page-track APIs Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 25/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Handle KVM bookkeeping in page-track APIs, not callers Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 26/27] KVM: x86/mmu: Add page-track API to query if a gfn is valid Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-28  7:57   ` [Intel-gfx] " Yan Zhao
2022-12-28  7:57     ` Yan Zhao
2023-01-03 21:19     ` [Intel-gfx] " Sean Christopherson
2023-01-03 21:19       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-01-05  3:12       ` [Intel-gfx] " Yan Zhao
2023-01-05  3:12         ` Yan Zhao
2023-01-05 17:53         ` [Intel-gfx] " Sean Christopherson
2023-01-05 17:53           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 27/27] drm/i915/gvt: Drop final dependencies on KVM internal details Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  0:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-23  1:28 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.BUILD: failure for drm/i915/gvt: KVM: KVMGT fixes and page-track cleanups Patchwork
2022-12-23  9:05 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 00/27] " Yan Zhao
2022-12-23  9:05   ` Yan Zhao
2023-01-04  1:01   ` [Intel-gfx] " Sean Christopherson
2023-01-04  1:01     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-01-05  3:13     ` [Intel-gfx] " Yan Zhao
2023-01-05  3:13       ` Yan Zhao
2022-12-28  5:28 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.BUILD: failure for drm/i915/gvt: KVM: KVMGT fixes and page-track cleanups (rev2) Patchwork
2023-01-06  6:25 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.BUILD: failure for drm/i915/gvt: KVM: KVMGT fixes and page-track cleanups (rev3) Patchwork
2023-01-19  9:01 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.BUILD: failure for drm/i915/gvt: KVM: KVMGT fixes and page-track cleanups (rev4) Patchwork

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