From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Kasireddy, Vivek" <vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>
Cc: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
"Kim, Dongwon" <dongwon.kim@intel.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
"Chang, Junxiao" <junxiao.chang@intel.com>,
Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/3] udmabuf: Add support for page migration out of movable zone or CMA
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 14:30:22 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZO98rj4y0TA4+CfO@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <IA0PR11MB7185D5451D4DFBDFD4C258E6F8E1A@IA0PR11MB7185.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 07:05:59PM +0000, Kasireddy, Vivek wrote:
> Hi Jason, David,
>
> > > > Sure, we can simply always fail when we detect ZONE_MOVABLE or
> > > MIGRATE_CMA.
> > > > Maybe that keeps at least some use cases working.
> > >
> > > That seems fairly reasonable
> > AFAICS, failing udmabuf_create() if we detect one or more pages are in
> > ZONE_MOVABLE or MIGRATE_CMA would not be a recoverable failure --
> > as it would result in the failure of Guest GUI (or compositor).
Yes, you can't use whatever this driver is while enabling MOVABLE or
CMA in your kernel boot.
> > I think it makes sense to have a generic version of
> > And, since check_and_migrate_movable_pages() is GUP-specific, would
> > it be ok to create a generic version of that (in mm/migrate.c) which can be
> > used by udmabuf and/or other drivers in the future?
> Sorry, I accidentally sent this earlier email before finishing it.
> What I meant to say is since the same situation (inadvertently pinning pages
> in movable) may probably arise in the future with another driver,
Why?
It was a big mistake to design a uAPI around taking in a FD and
extracting pages from it, we don't have kernel infrastructure for
that, and code liek that does not belong outside the MM at all.
> I think it makes sense to have a generic (non-GUP) version of
> check_and_migrate_movable_pages() available in migration.h that
> drivers can use to ensure that they don't break memory hotunplug
> accidentally.
Definately not.
Either use the VMA and pin_user_pages(), or implement
pin_user_pages_fd() in core code.
Do not open code something wonky in drivers.
Jason
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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Kasireddy, Vivek" <vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
"Kim, Dongwon" <dongwon.kim@intel.com>,
"Chang, Junxiao" <junxiao.chang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/3] udmabuf: Add support for page migration out of movable zone or CMA
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 14:30:22 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZO98rj4y0TA4+CfO@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <IA0PR11MB7185D5451D4DFBDFD4C258E6F8E1A@IA0PR11MB7185.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 07:05:59PM +0000, Kasireddy, Vivek wrote:
> Hi Jason, David,
>
> > > > Sure, we can simply always fail when we detect ZONE_MOVABLE or
> > > MIGRATE_CMA.
> > > > Maybe that keeps at least some use cases working.
> > >
> > > That seems fairly reasonable
> > AFAICS, failing udmabuf_create() if we detect one or more pages are in
> > ZONE_MOVABLE or MIGRATE_CMA would not be a recoverable failure --
> > as it would result in the failure of Guest GUI (or compositor).
Yes, you can't use whatever this driver is while enabling MOVABLE or
CMA in your kernel boot.
> > I think it makes sense to have a generic version of
> > And, since check_and_migrate_movable_pages() is GUP-specific, would
> > it be ok to create a generic version of that (in mm/migrate.c) which can be
> > used by udmabuf and/or other drivers in the future?
> Sorry, I accidentally sent this earlier email before finishing it.
> What I meant to say is since the same situation (inadvertently pinning pages
> in movable) may probably arise in the future with another driver,
Why?
It was a big mistake to design a uAPI around taking in a FD and
extracting pages from it, we don't have kernel infrastructure for
that, and code liek that does not belong outside the MM at all.
> I think it makes sense to have a generic (non-GUP) version of
> check_and_migrate_movable_pages() available in migration.h that
> drivers can use to ensure that they don't break memory hotunplug
> accidentally.
Definately not.
Either use the VMA and pin_user_pages(), or implement
pin_user_pages_fd() in core code.
Do not open code something wonky in drivers.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-30 17:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-17 6:49 [PATCH v1 0/3] udmabuf: Add support for page migration out of movable zone or CMA Vivek Kasireddy
2023-08-17 6:49 ` Vivek Kasireddy
2023-08-17 6:49 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] mm/gup: Export check_and_migrate_movable_pages() Vivek Kasireddy
2023-08-17 6:49 ` Vivek Kasireddy
2023-08-30 14:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-17 6:49 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] udmabuf: Add support for page migration out of movable zone or CMA Vivek Kasireddy
2023-08-17 6:49 ` Vivek Kasireddy
2023-08-17 6:49 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] selftests/dma-buf/udmabuf: Add tests to verify data after page migration Vivek Kasireddy
2023-08-17 6:49 ` Vivek Kasireddy
2023-08-17 15:01 ` [PATCH v1 0/3] udmabuf: Add support for page migration out of movable zone or CMA Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-17 15:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-22 5:36 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-22 5:36 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-22 12:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-22 12:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-23 9:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-23 9:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-24 6:31 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-24 6:31 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-24 18:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-24 18:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-24 18:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-24 18:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-24 18:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-24 18:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-25 17:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-25 17:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-27 18:49 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-27 18:49 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-27 19:05 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-27 19:05 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-08-30 17:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-08-30 17:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-14 13:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-14 13:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-16 18:31 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2023-09-16 18:31 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
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