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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH nf 1/2] netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: move sync GC from insert path to set->ops->commit
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 23:42:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZRs5TvrxdZK3JAhY@calendula> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231002142312.GC30843@breakpoint.cc>

On Mon, Oct 02, 2023 at 04:23:12PM +0200, Florian Westphal wrote:
> Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org> wrote:
> > According to 2ee52ae94baa ("netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: skip sync GC for
> > new elements in this transaction"), new elements in this transaction
> > might expire before such transaction ends. Skip sync GC is needed for
> > such elements otherwise commit path might walk over an already released
> > object.
> > 
> > However, Florian found that while iterating the tree from the insert
> > path for sync GC, it is possible that stale references could still
> > happen for elements in the less-equal and great-than boundaries to
> > narrow down the tree descend to speed up overlap detection, this
> > triggers bogus overlap errors.
> > 
> > This patch skips expired elements in the overlap detection routine which
> > iterates on the reversed ordered list of elements that represent the
> > intervals. Since end elements provide no expiration extension, check for
> > the next non-end element in this interval, hence, skip both elements in
> > the iteration if the interval has expired.
> 
> 10.1.2.3 - 10.1.2.30  (expired!)
> 
> transaction wants to add:
> 10.1.2.2 - 10.1.2.29
> 
> AFAICS, this is now mismerged into:
> 
> 10.1.2.2 - 10.1.2.30, because walking back to
> next end element from expired 10.1.2.3 will
> find 10.1.2.29 as first preceeding end element, no?

Yes, this corner case is currently possible.

> and the "commit" operation comes after genid bump, so we can't
> restrict that to "not active in next gen" or similar :-/
> 
> Can you use dead-bit instead?

Yes, on-demand GC remains in place from insert path and it uses the
dead bit.

> Element has expired -> Mark element and the end-pair as dead,
> then reap all expired and dead nodes from commit callback.
>
> Problem is what to do after reset-inerval support is added,
> because the newly-marked-dead elements could have a timeout
> refresh already pending, and I don't see how this can be handled.

You mean:

transaction
set element E is refreshed
set element E expires
set element E is marked as dead by on-demand GC (when walking down for different element E2)
end transaction

This can probably be addressed by using a curren time snapshot at the
beginning of the transaction to check for the expiration, instead of
checking for the current real time which is a moving target.

Let's consolidate this discussion in one single email thread, all
these issues are interrelated :)

      parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-02 21:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-29 16:44 [PATCH nf 1/2] netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: move sync GC from insert path to set->ops->commit Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-09-29 16:44 ` [PATCH nf 2/2] netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: remove async GC Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-09-29 22:25 ` [PATCH nf 1/2] netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: move sync GC from insert path to set->ops->commit Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-09-30  8:10   ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-01 20:10     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-01 21:08       ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-02  8:20         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02  8:47           ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-02 10:24             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02 12:42         ` update element timeout support [was Re: [PATCH nf 1/2] netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: move sync GC from insert path to set->ops->commit] Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02 13:58           ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-02 14:21             ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-03  8:22               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-03  9:04                 ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-03  9:42                   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-03 18:24                     ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-04  8:30                       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02 21:10             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02 21:14               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02 14:23 ` [PATCH nf 1/2] netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: move sync GC from insert path to set->ops->commit Florian Westphal
2023-10-02 21:37   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02 21:42   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]

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