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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Dmitry Rokosov <ddrokosov@salutedevices.com>
Cc: rostedt@goodmis.org, mhiramat@kernel.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	roman.gushchin@linux.dev, shakeelb@google.com,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	kernel@sberdevices.ru, rockosov@gmail.com,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] mm: memcg: introduce new event to trace shrink_memcg
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:24:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZV4BK0wbUAZBIhmA@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231122105836.xhlgbwmwjdwd3g5v@CAB-WSD-L081021>

On Wed 22-11-23 13:58:36, Dmitry Rokosov wrote:
> Hello Michal,
> 
> Thank you for the quick review!
> 
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 11:23:24AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Wed 22-11-23 13:01:56, Dmitry Rokosov wrote:
> > > The shrink_memcg flow plays a crucial role in memcg reclamation.
> > > Currently, it is not possible to trace this point from non-direct
> > > reclaim paths.
> > 
> > Is this really true? AFAICS we have
> > mm_vmscan_lru_isolate
> > mm_vmscan_lru_shrink_active
> > mm_vmscan_lru_shrink_inactive
> > 
> > which are in the vry core of the memory reclaim. Sure post processing
> > those is some work.
> 
> Sure, you are absolutely right. In the usual scenario, the memcg
> shrinker utilizes two sub-shrinkers: slab and LRU. We can enable the
> tracepoints you mentioned and analyze them. However, there is one
> potential issue. Enabling these tracepoints will trigger the reclaim
> events show for all pages. Although we can filter them per pid, we
> cannot filter them per cgroup. Nevertheless, there are times when it
> would be extremely beneficial to comprehend the effectiveness of the
> reclaim process within the relevant cgroup. For this reason, I am adding
> the cgroup name to the memcg tracepoints and implementing a cumulative
> tracepoint for memcg shrink (LRU + slab)."

I can see how printing memcg in mm_vmscan_memcg_reclaim_begin makes it
easier to postprocess per memcg reclaim. But you could do that just by
adding that to mm_vmscan_memcg_reclaim_{begin, end}, no? Why exactly
does this matter for kswapd and other global reclaim contexts? 
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-22 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-22 10:01 [PATCH v2 0/2] mm: memcg: improve vmscan tracepoints Dmitry Rokosov
2023-11-22 10:01 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: memcg: print out cgroup name in the memcg tracepoints Dmitry Rokosov
2023-11-23  7:21   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-11-23  8:03     ` Dmitry Rokosov
2023-11-23  8:15       ` Shakeel Butt
2023-11-23  8:45         ` Dmitry Rokosov
2023-11-23 11:21           ` Dmitry Rokosov
2023-11-22 10:01 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm: memcg: introduce new event to trace shrink_memcg Dmitry Rokosov
2023-11-22 10:23   ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-22 10:58     ` Dmitry Rokosov
2023-11-22 13:24       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2023-11-22 18:57         ` Dmitry Rokosov
2023-11-23 11:26           ` Dmitry Rokosov
2023-11-27  9:25             ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-27 11:37               ` Dmitry Rokosov

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