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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	ankita@nvidia.com,
	Shameerali Kolothum Thodi <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	oliver.upton@linux.dev, suzuki.poulose@arm.com,
	yuzenghui@huawei.com, will@kernel.org, ardb@kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, gshan@redhat.com, aniketa@nvidia.com,
	cjia@nvidia.com, kwankhede@nvidia.com, targupta@nvidia.com,
	vsethi@nvidia.com, acurrid@nvidia.com, apopple@nvidia.com,
	jhubbard@nvidia.com, danw@nvidia.com, mochs@nvidia.com,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	lpieralisi@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] KVM: arm64: allow the VM to select DEVICE_* and NORMAL_NC for IO memory
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2023 17:33:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZW9ezSGSDIvv5MsQ@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86bkb4bn2v.wl-maz@kernel.org>

On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 05:01:28PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 16:43:18 +0000,
> Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 04:22:33PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > That's an argument to restrict this feature to PCIe. It's really about
> > > fewer arguments on the behaviour of other devices. Marc did raise
> > > another issue with the GIC VCPU interface (does this even have a vma in
> > > the host VMM?). That's a class of devices where the mapping is
> > > context-switched, so the TLBI+DSB rules don't help.
> 
> There is no vma. The CPU interface is entirely under control of KVM.
> Userspace only provides the IPA for the mapping.

That's good to know. We can solve the GIC issue by limiting the
relaxation to those mappings that have a user vma. Ideally we should do
this for vfio only but we don't have an easy way to convey this to KVM.

-- 
Catalin

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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	ankita@nvidia.com,
	Shameerali Kolothum Thodi <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	oliver.upton@linux.dev, suzuki.poulose@arm.com,
	yuzenghui@huawei.com, will@kernel.org, ardb@kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, gshan@redhat.com, aniketa@nvidia.com,
	cjia@nvidia.com, kwankhede@nvidia.com, targupta@nvidia.com,
	vsethi@nvidia.com, acurrid@nvidia.com, apopple@nvidia.com,
	jhubbard@nvidia.com, danw@nvidia.com, mochs@nvidia.com,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	lpieralisi@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] KVM: arm64: allow the VM to select DEVICE_* and NORMAL_NC for IO memory
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2023 17:33:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZW9ezSGSDIvv5MsQ@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86bkb4bn2v.wl-maz@kernel.org>

On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 05:01:28PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 16:43:18 +0000,
> Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 04:22:33PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > That's an argument to restrict this feature to PCIe. It's really about
> > > fewer arguments on the behaviour of other devices. Marc did raise
> > > another issue with the GIC VCPU interface (does this even have a vma in
> > > the host VMM?). That's a class of devices where the mapping is
> > > context-switched, so the TLBI+DSB rules don't help.
> 
> There is no vma. The CPU interface is entirely under control of KVM.
> Userspace only provides the IPA for the mapping.

That's good to know. We can solve the GIC issue by limiting the
relaxation to those mappings that have a user vma. Ideally we should do
this for vfio only but we don't have an easy way to convey this to KVM.

-- 
Catalin

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-05 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-05  3:30 [PATCH v2 1/1] KVM: arm64: allow the VM to select DEVICE_* and NORMAL_NC for IO memory ankita
2023-12-05  3:30 ` ankita
2023-12-05  9:21 ` Marc Zyngier
2023-12-05  9:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-12-05 11:40   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-05 11:40     ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-05 13:05     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-05 13:05       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-05 14:37       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-12-05 14:37         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-12-05 14:44         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-05 14:44           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-05 16:24           ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-05 16:24             ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-05 17:10             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-05 17:10               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-05 16:22       ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-05 16:22         ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-05 16:43         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-05 16:43           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-05 17:01           ` Marc Zyngier
2023-12-05 17:01             ` Marc Zyngier
2023-12-05 17:33             ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2023-12-05 17:33               ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-05 17:50               ` Marc Zyngier
2023-12-05 17:50                 ` Marc Zyngier
2023-12-05 18:40                 ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-05 18:40                   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-06 11:39                   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-12-06 11:39                     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-12-06 12:14                     ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-06 12:14                       ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-06 15:16                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-06 15:16                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-06 16:31                         ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-06 16:31                           ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-06 17:20                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-06 17:20                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-06 18:58                             ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-06 18:58                               ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-06 19:03                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-06 19:03                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-06 19:06                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-06 19:06                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-07  2:53                                   ` Ankit Agrawal
2023-12-07  2:53                                     ` Ankit Agrawal
2023-12-06 11:52                   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-12-06 11:52                     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-12-05 19:24           ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-05 19:24             ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-05 19:48             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-05 19:48               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-06 14:49               ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-06 14:49                 ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-06 15:05                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-06 15:05                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-06 15:18                   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-12-06 15:18                     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-12-06 15:38                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-06 15:38                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-06 16:23                       ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-06 16:23                         ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-06 16:48                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-06 16:48                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-07 10:13                           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-12-07 10:13                             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-12-07 13:38                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-07 13:38                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-07 14:50                               ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-12-07 14:50                                 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-12-05 13:28     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-12-05 13:28       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-12-05 14:16     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2023-12-05 14:16       ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2023-12-06  8:17       ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2023-12-06  8:17         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2023-12-05 11:48 ` Catalin Marinas
2023-12-05 11:48   ` Catalin Marinas

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