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From: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
To: Sebastian Ene <sebastianene@google.com>
Cc: catalin.marinas@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com,
	jean-philippe@linaro.org, maz@kernel.org, qperret@google.com,
	qwandor@google.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com, tabba@google.com,
	will@kernel.org, yuzenghui@huawei.com, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] KVM: arm64: Allow only the specified FF-A calls to be forwarded to TZ
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 01:42:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZgKKcurtndJaIwAV@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZgFgI0Ky2m4MUbw-@google.com>

On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 11:29:39AM +0000, Sebastian Ene wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 07:07:52PM -0700, Oliver Upton wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 12:43:03PM +0000, Sebastian Ene wrote:
> > > The previous logic used a deny list to filter the FF-A calls. Because of
> > > this, some of the calls escaped the check and they were forwarded by
> > > default to Trustzone. (eg. FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ was denied but the 64
> > > bit version of the call was not).
> > > Modify the logic to use an allowlist and allow only the calls specified in
> > > the filter function to be proxied to TZ from the hypervisor.
> 
> Hi Oliver,
> 
> > 
> > I had discussed this with Will back when the feature was upstreamed and
> > he said there's a lot of off-label calls that necessitate a denylist
> > implementation. Has anything changed to give us confidence that we can
> > be restrictive, at least on the FF-A range?
> > 
> 
> I remember your proposal for having an allowlist instead. The current change makes
> sense if we have https://lore.kernel.org/kvmarm/20240322124303.309423-1-sebastianene@google.com/
> which opens the window for more FF-A calls to be forwarded to TZ.

Got it. Last time I didn't catch the level of abuse we expect to endure
from vendors, but now it seems we will not support non-conforming calls
that appear in standardized SMC ranges.

Adding mention of this to the changelog might be a good idea then.

-- 
Thanks,
Oliver

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From: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
To: Sebastian Ene <sebastianene@google.com>
Cc: catalin.marinas@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com,
	jean-philippe@linaro.org, maz@kernel.org, qperret@google.com,
	qwandor@google.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com, tabba@google.com,
	will@kernel.org, yuzenghui@huawei.com, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] KVM: arm64: Allow only the specified FF-A calls to be forwarded to TZ
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 01:42:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZgKKcurtndJaIwAV@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZgFgI0Ky2m4MUbw-@google.com>

On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 11:29:39AM +0000, Sebastian Ene wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 07:07:52PM -0700, Oliver Upton wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 12:43:03PM +0000, Sebastian Ene wrote:
> > > The previous logic used a deny list to filter the FF-A calls. Because of
> > > this, some of the calls escaped the check and they were forwarded by
> > > default to Trustzone. (eg. FFA_MSG_SEND_DIRECT_REQ was denied but the 64
> > > bit version of the call was not).
> > > Modify the logic to use an allowlist and allow only the calls specified in
> > > the filter function to be proxied to TZ from the hypervisor.
> 
> Hi Oliver,
> 
> > 
> > I had discussed this with Will back when the feature was upstreamed and
> > he said there's a lot of off-label calls that necessitate a denylist
> > implementation. Has anything changed to give us confidence that we can
> > be restrictive, at least on the FF-A range?
> > 
> 
> I remember your proposal for having an allowlist instead. The current change makes
> sense if we have https://lore.kernel.org/kvmarm/20240322124303.309423-1-sebastianene@google.com/
> which opens the window for more FF-A calls to be forwarded to TZ.

Got it. Last time I didn't catch the level of abuse we expect to endure
from vendors, but now it seems we will not support non-conforming calls
that appear in standardized SMC ranges.

Adding mention of this to the changelog might be a good idea then.

-- 
Thanks,
Oliver

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-26  8:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-22 12:43 [PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: Fix the identification range for the FF-A smcs Sebastian Ene
2024-03-22 12:43 ` Sebastian Ene
2024-03-22 12:43 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: arm64: Allow only the specified FF-A calls to be forwarded to TZ Sebastian Ene
2024-03-22 12:43   ` Sebastian Ene
2024-03-23  2:07   ` Oliver Upton
2024-03-23  2:07     ` Oliver Upton
2024-03-25 11:29     ` Sebastian Ene
2024-03-25 11:29       ` Sebastian Ene
2024-03-26  8:42       ` Oliver Upton [this message]
2024-03-26  8:42         ` Oliver Upton
2024-03-28 13:59         ` Sebastian Ene
2024-03-28 13:59           ` Sebastian Ene

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