From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Stefan Eichenberger <eichest@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org,
pabeni@redhat.com, robh@kernel.org,
krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org, conor+dt@kernel.org,
lxu@maxlinear.com, hkallweit1@gmail.com, michael@walle.cc,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] net: phy: mxl-gpy: add new device tree property to disable SGMII autoneg
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 19:13:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZilLz8f6vQQCg4NB@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zikrv5UOWvSGjgcv@eichest-laptop>
On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 05:56:47PM +0200, Stefan Eichenberger wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 03:58:00PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 04:01:59PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 09:22:50AM +0200, Stefan Eichenberger wrote:
> > > > I also checked the datasheet and you are right about the 1000base-X mode
> > > > and in-band AN. What worked for us so far was to use SGMII mode even for
> > > > 2.5Gbps and disable in-band AN (which is possible for SGMII). I think
> > > > this works because as you wrote, the genphy just multiplies the clock by
> > > > 2.5 and doesn't care if it's 1000base-X or SGMII. With your patches we
> > > > might even be able to use in-band autonegoation for 10,100 and 1000Mbps
> > > > and then just disable it for 2.5Gbps. I need to test it, but I have hope
> > > > that this should work.
> > >
> > > There is another way we could address this. If the querying support
> > > had a means to identify that the endpoint supports bypass mode, we
> > > could then have phylink identify that, and arrange to program the
> > > mvpp2 end to be in 1000base-X + x2.5 clock + AN bypass, which would
> > > mean it wouldn't require the inband 16-bit word to be present.
> > >
> > > I haven't fully thought it through yet - for example, I haven't
> > > considered how we should indicate to the PCS that AN bypass mode
> > > should be enabled or disabled via the pcs_config() method.
> >
> > Okay, I've been trying to put more effort into this, but it's been slow
> > progress (sorry).
> >
> > My thoughts from a design point of view were that we could just switch
> > to PHYLINK_PCS_NEG_OUTBAND instead of PHYLINK_PCS_NEG_INBAND_* and
> > everything at the PCS layer should be able to cope, but this is not the
> > case, especially with mvneta/mvpp2.
> >
> > The problem is that mvneta/mvpp2 (and probably more) expect that
> >
> > 1) MLO_AN_INBAND means that the PCS will be using inband, and that
> > means the link up/down state won't be forced. This basically implies
> > that only PHYLINK_PCS_NEG_INBAND_* can be used can be used for the
> > PCS.
> >
> > 2) !MLO_AN_INBAND means that an out-of-band mechanism will be used and
> > that means that the link needs to be forced (since there's no way
> > for the hardware to know whether the link should be up or down.)
> > It's therefore expected that only PHYLINK_PCS_NEG_OUTBAND will be
> > used for the PCS.
> >
> > So, attempting to put a resolution of the PHY and PCS abilities into
> > phylink_pcs_neg_mode() and select the appropriate PHYLINK_PCS_NEG_*
> > mode alone just doesn't work. Yet... we need to do that in there when
> > considering whether inband can be enabled or not for non-PHY links.
> >
> > Basically, it needs a re-think how to solve this...
>
> Today I was playing around with my combination of mxl-gpy and mvpp2 and
> I got it working again with your patches applied. However, I hacked the
> phylink driver to only rely on what the phy and pcs support. I know this
> is not a proper solution, but it allowed me to verify the other changes.
> My idea was if the phy and pcs support inband then use it, otherwise use
> outband and ignore the rest.
>
> Here is how my minimal phylink_pcs_neg_mode test function looks like:
>
> static unsigned int phylink_pcs_neg_mode(struct phylink *pl,
> struct phylink_pcs *pcs,
> unsigned int mode,
> phy_interface_t interface,
> const unsigned long *advertising)
> {
> unsigned int phy_link_mode = 0;
> unsigned int pcs_link_mode;
>
> pcs_link_mode = phylink_pcs_query_inband(pcs, interface);
> if (pl->phydev)
> phy_link_mode = phy_query_inband(pl->phydev, interface);
>
> /* If the PCS or PHY can not provide inband, then use
> * outband.
> */
> if (!(pcs_link_mode & LINK_INBAND_VALID) ||
> !(phy_link_mode & LINK_INBAND_VALID))
> return PHYLINK_PCS_NEG_OUTBAND;
>
> return PHYLINK_PCS_NEG_INBAND_ENABLED;
> }
Note that I've changed the flags that get reported to be disable (bit 0)/
enable (bit 1) rather than valid/possible/required because the former
makes the resolution easier.
The problem is that merely returning outband doesn't cause mvneta/mvpp2
to force the link up. So for example, here's a SFP module which doesn't
support any inband for 2500base-X nor SGMII:
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: copper SFP: interfaces=[mac=4,9-12,19,22-23, sfp=
4,23,27]
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: copper SFP: chosen 2500base-x interface
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: PHY i2c:sfp:16 uses interfaces 4,23,27, validatin
g 4,23
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: interface 4 (sgmii) rate match none supports 2-3
,5-6,13
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: interface 23 (2500base-x) rate match none suppor
ts 6,13,47
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: PHY [i2c:sfp:16] driver [Broadcom BCM84881] (irq=
POLL)
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: phy: 2500base-x setting supported 00,00000000,000
08000,0000206c advertising 00,00000000,00008000,0000206c
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: copper SFP: PHY link in-band modes 0x1
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: major config 2500base-x
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: link modes: pcs=02 phy=01
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: phylink_mac_config: mode=inband/2500base-x/none a
dv=00,00000000,00008000,0000206c pause=04
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: phylink_sfp_module_start()
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: phylink_sfp_link_up()
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: phy link down 2500base-x/Unknown/Unknown/none/off
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: phy link up sgmii/1Gbps/Full/none/off
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: major config sgmii
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: link modes: pcs=03 phy=01
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: phylink_mac_config: mode=inband/sgmii/none adv=00,00000000,00008000,0000206c pause=00
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: pcs link down
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: pcs link down
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: can LPI, EEE enabled, active
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: enabling tx_lpi, timer 250us
mvneta f1034000.ethernet eno2: Link is Up - 1Gbps/Full - flow control off
This looks like the link is up, but it isn't - note "pcs link down".
If we look at the value of the GMAC AN status register:
Value at address 0xf1036c10: 0x0000600a
which indicates that the link is down, so no packets will pass.
--
RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
FTTP is here! 80Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-24 18:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-16 12:10 [RFC PATCH 0/2] mxl-gpy: add option to match SGMII speed to the TPI speed Stefan Eichenberger
2024-04-16 12:10 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: net: phy: gpy2xx: add sgmii-match-tpi-speed property Stefan Eichenberger
2024-04-16 12:10 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] net: phy: mxl-gpy: add new device tree property to disable SGMII autoneg Stefan Eichenberger
2024-04-16 13:46 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-16 15:43 ` Stefan Eichenberger
2024-04-16 15:48 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-04-16 16:00 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-04-16 16:02 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-16 16:24 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-04-16 17:23 ` Stefan Eichenberger
2024-04-16 18:12 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-04-17 7:22 ` Stefan Eichenberger
2024-04-18 15:01 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-04-24 14:58 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-04-24 15:56 ` Stefan Eichenberger
2024-04-24 18:13 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2024-04-25 11:24 ` Stefan Eichenberger
2024-04-25 14:30 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-04-25 15:51 ` Stefan Eichenberger
2024-04-25 16:30 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-04-25 17:33 ` Stefan Eichenberger
2024-04-25 20:15 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-05-02 13:44 ` Stefan Eichenberger
2024-05-02 14:14 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-05-03 16:35 ` Stefan Eichenberger
2024-05-03 22:41 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-05-06 12:29 ` Stefan Eichenberger
2024-04-23 13:23 ` Simon Horman
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=ZilLz8f6vQQCg4NB@shell.armlinux.org.uk \
--to=linux@armlinux.org.uk \
--cc=andrew@lunn.ch \
--cc=conor+dt@kernel.org \
--cc=davem@davemloft.net \
--cc=devicetree@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=edumazet@google.com \
--cc=eichest@gmail.com \
--cc=hkallweit1@gmail.com \
--cc=krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org \
--cc=kuba@kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=lxu@maxlinear.com \
--cc=michael@walle.cc \
--cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=pabeni@redhat.com \
--cc=robh@kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.