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From: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 01/20] mm: Provide pagesize to pmd_populate()
Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 13:57:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZkyMIOs76sZI5GsV@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dc66eff8-4371-4685-9dd8-3dacd3744e73@csgroup.eu>

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 04:24:51PM +0000, Christophe Leroy wrote:
> I had a quick look at that document and it seems to provide a good 
> summary of MMU features and principles. However there are some 
> theoritical information which is not fully right in practice. For 
> instance when they say "Segment attributes. These fields define 
> attributes common to all pages in this segment.". This is right in 
> theory if you consider it from Linux page table topology point of view, 
> hence what they call a segment is a PMD entry for Linux. However, in 
> practice each page has its own L1 and L2 attributes and there is not 
> requirement at HW level to have all L1 attributes of all pages of a 
> segment the same.

Thanks for taking the time Christophe, highly appreciated.

 
> rlwimi = Rotate Left Word Immediate then Mask Insert. Here it rotates 
> r10 by 23 bits to the left (or 9 to the right) then masks with 
> _PMD_PAGE_512K and inserts it into r11.
> 
> It means _PAGE_HUGE bit is copied into lower bit of PS attribute.
> 
> PS takes the following values:
> 
> PS = 00 ==> Small page (4k or 16k)
> PS = 01 ==> 512k page
> PS = 10 ==> Undefined
> PS = 11 ==> 8M page

I see, thanks for the explanation.

> That's a RFC, all ideas are welcome, I needed something to replace 
> hugepd_populate()

The only user interested in pmd_populate() having a sz parameter
is 8xx because it will toggle _PMD_PAGE_8M in case of a 8MB mapping.

Would it be possible for 8xx to encode the 'sz' in the *pmd pointer
prior to calling down the chain? (something like as we do for PTR_ERR()).
Then pmd_populate_{kernel_}size() from 8xx, would extract it like:

 unsigned long sz = PTR_SIZE(pmd)

Then we would not need all these 'sz' parameters scattered.

Can that work?


PD: Do you know a way to emulate a 8xx VM? qemu seems to not have
support support.

Thanks


-- 
Oscar Salvador
SUSE Labs

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 01/20] mm: Provide pagesize to pmd_populate()
Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 13:57:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZkyMIOs76sZI5GsV@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dc66eff8-4371-4685-9dd8-3dacd3744e73@csgroup.eu>

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 04:24:51PM +0000, Christophe Leroy wrote:
> I had a quick look at that document and it seems to provide a good 
> summary of MMU features and principles. However there are some 
> theoritical information which is not fully right in practice. For 
> instance when they say "Segment attributes. These fields define 
> attributes common to all pages in this segment.". This is right in 
> theory if you consider it from Linux page table topology point of view, 
> hence what they call a segment is a PMD entry for Linux. However, in 
> practice each page has its own L1 and L2 attributes and there is not 
> requirement at HW level to have all L1 attributes of all pages of a 
> segment the same.

Thanks for taking the time Christophe, highly appreciated.

 
> rlwimi = Rotate Left Word Immediate then Mask Insert. Here it rotates 
> r10 by 23 bits to the left (or 9 to the right) then masks with 
> _PMD_PAGE_512K and inserts it into r11.
> 
> It means _PAGE_HUGE bit is copied into lower bit of PS attribute.
> 
> PS takes the following values:
> 
> PS = 00 ==> Small page (4k or 16k)
> PS = 01 ==> 512k page
> PS = 10 ==> Undefined
> PS = 11 ==> 8M page

I see, thanks for the explanation.

> That's a RFC, all ideas are welcome, I needed something to replace 
> hugepd_populate()

The only user interested in pmd_populate() having a sz parameter
is 8xx because it will toggle _PMD_PAGE_8M in case of a 8MB mapping.

Would it be possible for 8xx to encode the 'sz' in the *pmd pointer
prior to calling down the chain? (something like as we do for PTR_ERR()).
Then pmd_populate_{kernel_}size() from 8xx, would extract it like:

 unsigned long sz = PTR_SIZE(pmd)

Then we would not need all these 'sz' parameters scattered.

Can that work?


PD: Do you know a way to emulate a 8xx VM? qemu seems to not have
support support.

Thanks


-- 
Oscar Salvador
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-21 12:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-17 18:59 [RFC PATCH v2 00/20] Reimplement huge pages without hugepd on powerpc (8xx, e500, book3s/64) Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 18:59 ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/20] mm: Provide pagesize to pmd_populate() Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 18:59   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-20  9:01   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-20  9:01     ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-20 16:24     ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-20 16:24       ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-21 11:57       ` Oscar Salvador [this message]
2024-05-21 11:57         ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-22  8:37         ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-22  8:37           ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/20] mm: Provide page size to pte_alloc_huge() Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 18:59   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/20] mm: Provide pmd to pte_leaf_size() Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 18:59   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-21  9:39   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-21  9:39     ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-22 10:22     ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-22 10:22       ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/20] mm: Provide mm_struct and address to huge_ptep_get() Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 18:59   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-18 12:15   ` kernel test robot
2024-05-18 15:34   ` kernel test robot
2024-05-17 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/20] powerpc/mm: Allow hugepages without hugepd Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 18:59   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/20] powerpc/8xx: Fix size given to set_huge_pte_at() Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-20  9:14   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-20  9:14     ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-20 16:31     ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-20 16:31       ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-20 17:42       ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-20 17:42         ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-22  8:45         ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-22  8:45           ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-21  0:48       ` Michael Ellerman
2024-05-21  0:48         ` Michael Ellerman
2024-05-21  9:26         ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-21  9:26           ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-22  8:32           ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-22  8:32             ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-22 12:18             ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-22 12:18               ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/20] powerpc/8xx: Rework support for 8M pages using contiguous PTE entries Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-24 10:02   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-24 10:02     ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-24 11:47     ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-24 11:47       ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/20] powerpc/8xx: Simplify struct mmu_psize_def Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-25  3:36   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-25  3:36     ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-17 19:00 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/20] powerpc/mm: Remove _PAGE_PSIZE Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-25  3:40   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-25  3:40     ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-17 19:00 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/20] powerpc/mm: Fix __find_linux_pte() on 32 bits with PMD leaf entries Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-25  4:12   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-25  4:12     ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-25  6:41     ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-25  6:41       ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/20] powerpc/mm: Complement huge_pte_alloc() for all non HUGEPD setups Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-25  4:29   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-25  4:29     ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-25  6:44     ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-25  6:44       ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-25 10:33       ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-25 10:33         ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-17 19:00 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/20] powerpc/64e: Remove unneeded #ifdef CONFIG_PPC_E500 Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-24  7:31   ` Michael Ellerman
2024-05-24  7:31     ` Michael Ellerman
2024-05-24  8:45     ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-24  8:45       ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/20] powerpc/64e: Clean up impossible setups Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/20] powerpc/e500: Remove enc field from struct mmu_psize_def Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-25  4:35   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-25  4:35     ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-17 19:00 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/20] powerpc/85xx: Switch to 64 bits PGD Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-25  4:54   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-25  4:54     ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-25  9:02     ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-25  9:02       ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/20] powerpc/e500: Encode hugepage size in PTE bits Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/20] powerpc/e500: Use contiguous PMD instead of hugepd Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/20] powerpc/64s: Use contiguous PMD/PUD instead of HUGEPD Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-20 12:54   ` Nicholas Piggin
2024-05-20 12:54     ` Nicholas Piggin
2024-05-20 16:43     ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-20 16:43       ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-22  1:13       ` Nicholas Piggin
2024-05-22  1:13         ` Nicholas Piggin
2024-05-22  9:32         ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-22  9:32           ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-22 12:23         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22 12:23           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-17 19:00 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/20] powerpc/mm: Remove hugepd leftovers Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00 ` [RFC PATCH v2 20/20] mm: Remove CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_HUGEPD Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:00   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-17 19:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/20] Reimplement huge pages without hugepd on powerpc (8xx, e500, book3s/64) Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-17 19:06   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-18  6:28   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-18  6:28     ` Christophe Leroy
2024-05-23 19:40 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-23 19:40   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-24  4:46   ` Michael Ellerman
2024-05-24  4:46     ` Michael Ellerman
2024-05-27 14:14     ` Peter Xu
2024-05-27 14:14       ` Peter Xu
2024-05-24  6:31   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-24  6:31     ` Oscar Salvador

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