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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] sched_ext: Initial pull request for v6.11
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 15:11:49 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZqmPVUw8htIwkvRb@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240730090443.GI33588@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hello,

On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 11:04:43AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_NO_HZ_COMMON
> > -static bool sugov_cpu_is_busy(struct sugov_cpu *sg_cpu)
> > +static bool sugov_hold_freq(struct sugov_cpu *sg_cpu)
> >  {
> > -	unsigned long idle_calls = tick_nohz_get_idle_calls_cpu(sg_cpu->cpu);
> > -	bool ret = idle_calls == sg_cpu->saved_idle_calls;
> > +	unsigned long idle_calls;
> > +	bool ret;
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * The heuristics in this function is for the fair class. For SCX, the
> > +	 * performance target comes directly from the BPF scheduler. Let's just
> > +	 * follow it.
> > +	 */
> > +	if (scx_switched_all())
> > +		return false;
> 
> This one does seem really weird. It makes schedutil behave significantly
> different from the BPF pov depending on if you have this partial mode on
> or not.
> 
> So I would really like this to be reconsidered as I agree with Qais,
> things should be consistent.

I replied in the other thread and Vincent raised it too. To reiterate, when
switched_all(), if we want to keep accumulating util signal from the fair
class, we need to keep calling fair's update_blocked_averages() so that the
value can decay. We can but it seems silly to keep calling it to decay it to
zero when we know it's becoming and staying zero.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-31  1:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-15 22:32 [GIT PULL] sched_ext: Initial pull request for v6.11 Tejun Heo
2024-07-23 16:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-23 19:34   ` Tejun Heo
2024-07-24  8:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-24 17:38       ` David Vernet
2024-07-31  1:36       ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-02 11:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-02 16:09           ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-02 17:37             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-06 21:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-06 21:34           ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-06 21:55             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-06 22:09               ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-10 20:45                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-13 19:14                   ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-13 22:53                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-21 23:08                       ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-06 19:56       ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-06 20:18         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-06 20:20           ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-02 12:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-02 18:47     ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-06  8:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-06 19:17         ` Tejun Heo
2024-07-25  1:19 ` Qais Yousef
2024-07-30  9:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-31  1:11     ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2024-07-31  1:22   ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-01 13:17     ` Qais Yousef
2024-08-01 16:36       ` Tejun Heo
2024-08-05  1:44         ` Qais Yousef
2024-08-01  2:50   ` Russell Haley
2024-08-01 15:52     ` Qais Yousef

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