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From: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: "Matias Bjørling" <m@bjorling.me>,
	dlemoal@kernel.org, cassel@kernel.org,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Matias Bjørling" <matias.bjorling@wdc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] nvme: make independent ns identify default
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2024 08:56:32 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZwaZoJayzu6XZom1@kbusch-mbp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241009074611.GB16181@lst.de>

On Wed, Oct 09, 2024 at 09:46:11AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 04:55:02PM +0200, Matias Bjørling wrote:
> > However, the independent namespace data structure
> > is mandatory for devices that implement features from the 2.0+
> > specification. Therefore, we can check this data structure first. If
> > unavailable, retrieve the generic attributes from the NVM command set
> > identify namespace data structure.
> 
> I'm not a huge fan of this.  For pre-2.0 controllers this means
> we'll now send a command that will fail most of them time.  And for
> all the cheap low-end consumer device I'm actually worried that they'll
> get it wrong and break something.

We already send identify commands that we expect may break on pre-2.0
controllers: the Identify NS Descriptor List.

We have other quirks for disabling specific identifications (ex:
nvme_ctrl_limited_cns, NVME_QUIRK_NO_NS_DESC_LIST) in case something
really break certain identifies. But I think anything >= 1.3 should be
fine: the CNS handling is well defined from that point onward, so we
shouldn't make anything harder than necessary from assuming someone got
identication this wrong.

The only pain I can think of is that some controllers increment their
error log count, and SMART tools creates unnecessary alerts for that.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-10-09 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-08 14:55 [PATCH 0/2] nvme: add rotational support Matias Bjørling
2024-10-08 14:55 ` [PATCH 1/2] nvme: make independent ns identify default Matias Bjørling
2024-10-09  6:16   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-10-09 13:59     ` Matias Bjørling
2024-10-09  7:46   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-09 13:19     ` Matias Bjørling
2024-10-10 14:47       ` Daniel Wagner
2024-10-10 15:02         ` Matias Bjørling
2024-10-09 14:56     ` Keith Busch [this message]
2024-10-10  7:53       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-08 14:55 ` [PATCH 2/2] nvme: add rotational support Matias Bjørling
2024-10-09  6:17   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-10-09  7:48   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-09 13:09     ` Matias Bjørling
2024-10-08 15:13 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Keith Busch
2024-10-08 22:04   ` Keith Busch
2024-10-09 12:56     ` Matias Bjørling
2024-10-08 15:26 ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-10-09  7:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-09 13:27   ` Matias Bjørling
2024-10-09 15:39   ` Keith Busch
2024-10-09 18:04     ` Matias Bjørling

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