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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 01/11] cpuidle/poll_state: poll via smp_cond_load_relaxed()
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:02:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZxZC8Pg1qwULeirJ@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87jze5kzhp.fsf@oracle.com>

On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 12:00:34PM -0700, Ankur Arora wrote:
> Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> writes:
> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 03:47:31PM -0700, Ankur Arora wrote:
> >> So maybe the right thing to do would be to keep smp_cond_load_timeout()
> >> but only allow polling if WFxT or event-stream is enabled. And enhance
> >> cpuidle_poll_state_init() to fail if the above condition is not met.
> >
> > We could do this as well. Maybe hide this behind another function like
> > arch_has_efficient_smp_cond_load_timeout() (well, some shorter name),
> > checked somewhere in or on the path to cpuidle_poll_state_init(). Well,
> > it might be simpler to do this in haltpoll_want(), backed by an
> > arch_haltpoll_want() function.
> 
> Yeah, checking in arch_haltpoll_want() would mean that we can leave all
> the cpuidle_poll_state_init() call sites unchanged.
> 
> However, I suspect that even acpi-idle on arm64 might end up using
> poll_idle() (as this patch tries to do:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/f8a1f85b-c4bf-4c38-81bf-728f72a4f2fe@huawei.com/).
> 
> So, let me try doing it both ways to see which one is simpler.
> Given that the event-stream can be assumed to be always-on it might just
> be more straight-forward to fallback to cpu_relax() in that edge case.

I agree, let's go with the simplest. If one has some strong case for
running with the event stream disabled and idle polling becomes too
energy inefficient, we can revisit and add some run-time checks.

-- 
Catalin

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-21 12:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-25 23:24 [PATCH v8 00/11] Enable haltpoll on arm64 Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 01/11] cpuidle/poll_state: poll via smp_cond_load_relaxed() Ankur Arora
2024-10-15 12:04   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-15 16:42     ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-15 16:50       ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-15 17:17         ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-15 17:40           ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-15 21:53             ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-15 22:28               ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-16  7:06                 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-17 16:54                   ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-17 18:36                     ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-15 22:40               ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-16  9:54                 ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-17 16:56                   ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-17 18:15                     ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-17 19:34                       ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-15 21:32     ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-16  6:20       ` maobibo
2024-10-16 10:06       ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-16 15:13     ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-10-16 17:04       ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-16 18:04         ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-10-17 14:01       ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-17 22:47         ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-18 11:05           ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-18 19:00             ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-21 12:02               ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 02/11] cpuidle: rename ARCH_HAS_CPU_RELAX to ARCH_HAS_OPTIMIZED_POLL Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 03/11] Kconfig: move ARCH_HAS_OPTIMIZED_POLL to arch/Kconfig Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 04/11] cpuidle-haltpoll: define arch_haltpoll_want() Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 05/11] governors/haltpoll: drop kvm_para_available() check Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 06/11] cpuidle-haltpoll: condition on ARCH_CPUIDLE_HALTPOLL Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 07/11] arm64: define TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 08/11] arm64: idle: export arch_cpu_idle Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 09/11] arm64: select ARCH_HAS_OPTIMIZED_POLL Ankur Arora
2024-10-14 22:48   ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 10/11] cpuidle/poll_state: limit POLL_IDLE_RELAX_COUNT on arm64 Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 11/11] arm64: support cpuidle-haltpoll Ankur Arora
2024-10-02 22:42   ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-10-03  3:29     ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-14 22:49       ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-15  1:49         ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-16 15:13   ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-10-09  2:37 ` [PATCH v8 00/11] Enable haltpoll on arm64 zhenglifeng (A)
2024-10-15  1:53   ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-14 22:54 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-15 12:36 ` Marc Zyngier
2024-10-16 21:55   ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-17  8:19     ` Marc Zyngier
2024-10-17 18:35       ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-22 22:01         ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-05 18:30 ` Haris Okanovic
2024-11-05 18:30   ` [PATCH 1/5] asm-generic: add smp_vcond_load_relaxed() Haris Okanovic
2024-11-05 19:36     ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-11-06 17:06       ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-06 11:08     ` Catalin Marinas
2024-11-06 18:13       ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-06 19:55         ` Catalin Marinas
2024-11-06 20:31           ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-06 11:39     ` Will Deacon
2024-11-06 17:18       ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-05 18:30   ` [PATCH 2/5] arm64: add __READ_ONCE_EX() Haris Okanovic
2024-11-05 19:39     ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-11-06 17:37       ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-06 11:43     ` Will Deacon
2024-11-06 17:09       ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-09  9:49     ` David Laight
2024-11-05 18:30   ` [PATCH 3/5] arm64: refactor delay() to enable polling for value Haris Okanovic
2024-11-05 19:42     ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-11-06 17:42       ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-06  9:18     ` Catalin Marinas
2024-11-06 17:38       ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-05 18:30   ` [PATCH 4/5] arm64: add smp_vcond_load_relaxed() Haris Okanovic
2024-11-05 18:30   ` [PATCH 5/5] cpuidle: implement poll_idle() using smp_vcond_load_relaxed() Haris Okanovic
2024-11-05 19:45     ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-11-05 18:49   ` [PATCH v8 00/11] Enable haltpoll on arm64 Ankur Arora

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