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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 19/30] liveupdate: luo_sysfs: add sysfs state monitoring
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 18:07:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a27f9f8f-dc03-441b-8aa7-7daeff6c82ae@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250807014442.3829950-20-pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>

On 8/6/25 6:44 PM, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> Introduce a sysfs interface for the Live Update Orchestrator
> under /sys/kernel/liveupdate/. This interface provides a way for
> userspace tools and scripts to monitor the current state of the LUO
> state machine.
> 
> The main feature is a read-only file, state, which displays the
> current LUO state as a string ("normal", "prepared", "frozen",
> "updated"). The interface uses sysfs_notify to allow userspace
> listeners (e.g., via poll) to be efficiently notified of state changes.
> 
> ABI documentation for this new sysfs interface is added in
> Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-kernel-liveupdate.
> 
> This read-only sysfs interface complements the main ioctl interface
> provided by /dev/liveupdate, which handles LUO control operations and
> resource management.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
> ---
>   .../ABI/testing/sysfs-kernel-liveupdate       | 51 ++++++++++
>   kernel/liveupdate/Kconfig                     | 18 ++++
>   kernel/liveupdate/Makefile                    |  1 +
>   kernel/liveupdate/luo_core.c                  |  1 +
>   kernel/liveupdate/luo_internal.h              |  6 ++
>   kernel/liveupdate/luo_sysfs.c                 | 92 +++++++++++++++++++
>   6 files changed, 169 insertions(+)
>   create mode 100644 Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-kernel-liveupdate
>   create mode 100644 kernel/liveupdate/luo_sysfs.c
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-kernel-liveupdate b/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-kernel-liveupdate
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..bb85cbae4943
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-kernel-liveupdate
> @@ -0,0 +1,51 @@
> +What:		/sys/kernel/liveupdate/
> +Date:		May 2025
> +KernelVersion:	6.16.0
> +Contact:	pasha.tatashin@soleen.com
> +Description:	Directory containing interfaces to query the live
> +		update orchestrator. Live update is the ability to reboot the
> +		host kernel (e.g., via kexec, without a full power cycle) while
> +		keeping specifically designated devices operational ("alive")
> +		across the transition. After the new kernel boots, these devices
> +		can be re-attached to their original workloads (e.g., virtual
> +		machines) with their state preserved. This is particularly
> +		useful, for example, for quick hypervisor updates without
> +		terminating running virtual machines.
> +
> +
> +What:		/sys/kernel/liveupdate/state
> +Date:		May 2025
> +KernelVersion:	6.16.0
> +Contact:	pasha.tatashin@soleen.com
> +Description:	Read-only file that displays the current state of the live
> +		update orchestrator as a string. Possible values are:
> +
> +		"normal"	No live update operation is in progress. This is
> +				the default operational state.
> +
> +		"prepared"	The live update preparation phase has completed
> +				successfully (e.g., triggered via the
> +				/dev/liveupdate event). Kernel subsystems have
> +				been notified via the %LIVEUPDATE_PREPARE
> +				event/callback and should have initiated state
> +				saving. User workloads (e.g., VMs) are generally
> +				still running, but some operations (like device
> +				unbinding or new DMA mappings) might be
> +				restricted. The system is ready for the reboot
> +				trigger.
> +
> +		"frozen"	The final reboot notification has been sent
> +				(e.g., triggered via the 'reboot()' syscall),
> +				corresponding to the %LIVEUPDATE_REBOOT kernel
> +				event. Subsystems have had their final chance to
> +				save state. User workloads must be suspended.
> +				The system is about to execute the reboot into
> +				the new kernel (imminent kexec). This state
> +				corresponds to the "blackout window".
> +
> +		"updated"	The system has successfully rebooted into the
> +				new kernel via live update. Restoration of
> +				preserved resources can now occur (typically via
> +				ioctl commands). The system is awaiting the
> +				final 'finish' signal after user space completes
> +				restoration tasks.
> diff --git a/kernel/liveupdate/Kconfig b/kernel/liveupdate/Kconfig
> index f6b0bde188d9..75a17ca8a592 100644
> --- a/kernel/liveupdate/Kconfig
> +++ b/kernel/liveupdate/Kconfig
> @@ -29,6 +29,24 @@ config LIVEUPDATE
>   
>   	  If unsure, say N.
>   
> +config LIVEUPDATE_SYSFS_API
> +	bool "Live Update sysfs monitoring interface"
> +	depends on SYSFS
> +	depends on LIVEUPDATE
> +	help
> +	  Enable a sysfs interface for the Live Update Orchestrator
> +	  at /sys/kernel/liveupdate/.
> +
> +	  This allows monitoring the LUO state ('normal', 'prepared',
> +	  'frozen', 'updated') via the read-only 'state' file.
> +
> +	  This interface complements the primary /dev/liveupdate ioctl
> +	  interface, which handles the full update process.
> +	  This sysfs API may be useful for scripting, or userspace monitoring
> +	  needed to coordinate application restarts and minimize downtime.
> +
> +	  If unsure, say N.
> +
>   config KEXEC_HANDOVER
>   	bool "kexec handover"
>   	depends on ARCH_SUPPORTS_KEXEC_HANDOVER && ARCH_SUPPORTS_KEXEC_FILE
> diff --git a/kernel/liveupdate/Makefile b/kernel/liveupdate/Makefile
> index c67fa2797796..47f5d0378a75 100644
> --- a/kernel/liveupdate/Makefile
> +++ b/kernel/liveupdate/Makefile
> @@ -13,3 +13,4 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_KEXEC_HANDOVER)		+= kexec_handover.o
>   obj-$(CONFIG_KEXEC_HANDOVER_DEBUG)	+= kexec_handover_debug.o
>   
>   obj-$(CONFIG_LIVEUPDATE)		+= luo.o
> +obj-$(CONFIG_LIVEUPDATE_SYSFS_API)	+= luo_sysfs.o
> diff --git a/kernel/liveupdate/luo_core.c b/kernel/liveupdate/luo_core.c
> index 64d53b31d6d8..bd07ee859112 100644
> --- a/kernel/liveupdate/luo_core.c
> +++ b/kernel/liveupdate/luo_core.c
> @@ -100,6 +100,7 @@ static inline bool is_current_luo_state(enum liveupdate_state expected_state)
>   static void __luo_set_state(enum liveupdate_state state)
>   {
>   	WRITE_ONCE(luo_state, state);
> +	luo_sysfs_notify();
>   }
>   
>   static inline void luo_set_state(enum liveupdate_state state)
> diff --git a/kernel/liveupdate/luo_internal.h b/kernel/liveupdate/luo_internal.h
> index 01bd0d3b023b..9091ed04c606 100644
> --- a/kernel/liveupdate/luo_internal.h
> +++ b/kernel/liveupdate/luo_internal.h
> @@ -47,4 +47,10 @@ int luo_file_freeze(u64 token);
>   int luo_file_cancel(u64 token);
>   int luo_file_finish(u64 token);
>   
> +#ifdef CONFIG_LIVEUPDATE_SYSFS_API
> +void luo_sysfs_notify(void);
> +#else
> +static inline void luo_sysfs_notify(void) {}
> +#endif
> +
>   #endif /* _LINUX_LUO_INTERNAL_H */
> diff --git a/kernel/liveupdate/luo_sysfs.c b/kernel/liveupdate/luo_sysfs.c
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..935946bb741b
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/kernel/liveupdate/luo_sysfs.c
> @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@
> +// SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> +
> +/*
> + * Copyright (c) 2025, Google LLC.
> + * Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
> + */
> +
> +/**
> + * DOC: LUO sysfs interface
> + *
> + * Provides a sysfs interface at ``/sys/kernel/liveupdate/`` for monitoring LUO
> + * state.  Live update allows rebooting the kernel (via kexec) while preserving
> + * designated device state for attached workloads (e.g., VMs), useful for
> + * minimizing downtime during hypervisor updates.
> + *
> + * /sys/kernel/liveupdate/state
> + * ----------------------------
> + * - Permissions:  Read-only
> + * - Description:  Displays the current LUO state string.
> + * - Valid States:
> + *     @normal
> + *       Idle state.
> + *     @prepared
> + *       Preparation phase complete (triggered via '/dev/liveupdate'). Resources
> + *       checked, state saving initiated via %LIVEUPDATE_PREPARE event.
> + *       Workloads mostly running but may be restricted. Ready forreboot
> + *       trigger.
> + *     @frozen
> + *       Final reboot notification sent (triggered via 'reboot'). Corresponds to
> + *       %LIVEUPDATE_REBOOT event. Final state saving. Workloads must be
> + *       suspended. System about to kexec ("blackout window").
> + *     @updated
> + *       New kernel booted via live update. Awaiting 'finish' signal.
> + *
> + * Userspace Interaction & Blackout Window Reduction
> + * -------------------------------------------------
> + * Userspace monitors the ``state`` file to coordinate actions:
> + *   - Suspend workloads before @frozen state is entered.
> + *   - Initiate resource restoration upon entering @updated state.
> + *   - Resume workloads after restoration, minimizing downtime.
> + */
> +
> +#include <linux/kobject.h>
> +#include <linux/liveupdate.h>
> +#include <linux/sysfs.h>
> +#include "luo_internal.h"
> +
> +static bool luo_sysfs_initialized;
> +
> +#define LUO_DIR_NAME	"liveupdate"
> +
> +void luo_sysfs_notify(void)
> +{
> +	if (luo_sysfs_initialized)
> +		sysfs_notify(kernel_kobj, LUO_DIR_NAME, "state");
> +}
> +
> +/* Show the current live update state */
> +static ssize_t state_show(struct kobject *kobj, struct kobj_attribute *attr,
> +			  char *buf)
> +{
> +	return sysfs_emit(buf, "%s\n", luo_current_state_str());

Because the window of kernel live update is short, it is difficult to 
statistics how many times the kernel is live updated.

Is it possible to add a variable to statistics the times that the kernel 
is live updated?

For example, define a global variable of type atomic_t or u64 in the 
core module:

#include <linux/atomic.h>

static atomic_t klu_counter = ATOMIC_INIT(0);


Every time a live update completes successfully, increment the counter:

atomic_inc(&klu_counter);

Then exporting this value through /proc or /sys so that user space can 
check it:

static ssize_t klu_counter_show(struct kobject *kobj, struct 
kobj_attribute *attr, char *buf)
{
     return sprintf(buf, "%d\n", atomic_read(&klu_counter));
}

Yanjun.Zhu


> +}
> +
> +static struct kobj_attribute state_attribute = __ATTR_RO(state);
> +
> +static struct attribute *luo_attrs[] = {
> +	&state_attribute.attr,
> +	NULL
> +};
> +
> +static struct attribute_group luo_attr_group = {
> +	.attrs = luo_attrs,
> +	.name = LUO_DIR_NAME,
> +};
> +
> +static int __init luo_init(void)
> +{
> +	int ret;
> +
> +	ret = sysfs_create_group(kernel_kobj, &luo_attr_group);
> +	if (ret) {
> +		pr_err("Failed to create group\n");
> +		return ret;
> +	}
> +
> +	luo_sysfs_initialized = true;
> +	pr_info("Initialized\n");
> +
> +	return 0;
> +}
> +subsys_initcall(luo_init);


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-09  1:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-07  1:44 [PATCH v3 00/30] Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 01/30] kho: init new_physxa->phys_bits to fix lockdep Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 11:42   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-08 11:52     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-08 14:00       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 19:06         ` Andrew Morton
2025-08-08 19:51           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 20:19             ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:11   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-14 14:57     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 02/30] kho: mm: Don't allow deferred struct page with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 11:47   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-08 14:01     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 03/30] kho: warn if KHO is disabled due to an error Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 11:48   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 04/30] kho: allow to drive kho from within kernel Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 05/30] kho: make debugfs interface optional Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 06/30] kho: drop notifiers Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 07/30] kho: add interfaces to unpreserve folios and physical memory ranges Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:22   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-14 15:05     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 17:01       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-15  9:12     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-18 13:55       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-21 22:20         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-25  5:26           ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 08/30] kho: don't unpreserve memory during abort Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:30   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 14:57     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 09/30] liveupdate: kho: move to kernel/liveupdate Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-30  8:35   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-22 14:54     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 10/30] liveupdate: luo_core: luo_ioctl: Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:31   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 15:00     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 11/30] liveupdate: luo_core: integrate with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 12/30] liveupdate: luo_subsystems: add subsystem registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 13/30] liveupdate: luo_subsystems: implement subsystem callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 14/30] liveupdate: luo_files: add infrastructure for FDs Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 15/30] liveupdate: luo_files: implement file systems callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 16/30] liveupdate: luo_ioctl: add userpsace interface Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:49   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 21:09     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 17/30] liveupdate: luo_files: luo_ioctl: Unregister all FDs on device close Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-27 15:34   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-22 21:23     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-23 13:13       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 18/30] liveupdate: luo_files: luo_ioctl: Add ioctls for per-file state management Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 14:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 23:17     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 19/30] liveupdate: luo_sysfs: add sysfs state monitoring Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 16:03   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-26 18:58     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-09  1:07   ` yanjun.zhu [this message]
2025-10-09  5:20     ` Greg KH
2025-10-09 10:58     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-09 12:01       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-09 14:50         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-09 15:34         ` Zhu Yanjun
2025-10-09 17:04           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-09 17:30             ` Yanjun.Zhu
2025-10-09 17:56             ` Yanjun.Zhu
2025-10-09 23:12               ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-10  6:39                 ` Greg KH
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 20/30] reboot: call liveupdate_reboot() before kexec Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 21/30] kho: move kho debugfs directory to liveupdate Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 22/30] liveupdate: add selftests for subsystems un/registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 23/30] selftests/liveupdate: add subsystem/state tests Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 24/30] docs: add luo documentation Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 25/30] MAINTAINERS: add liveupdate entry Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 26/30] mm: shmem: use SHMEM_F_* flags instead of VM_* flags Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-11 23:11   ` Vipin Sharma
2025-08-13 12:42     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 27/30] mm: shmem: allow freezing inode mapping Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 28/30] mm: shmem: export some functions to internal.h Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 29/30] luo: allow preserving memfd Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 20:22   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-13 12:44     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13  6:34   ` Vipin Sharma
2025-08-13  7:09     ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 12:02       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13 12:14         ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 12:41           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-13 13:00             ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 13:37               ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13 13:41                 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-13 13:53                   ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 13:53                 ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 20:03               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-13 13:31             ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13 12:29     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13 13:49       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-13 13:55         ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-26 16:20   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-27 15:03     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-28 12:43       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-28 23:00         ` Chris Li
2025-09-01 17:10         ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-02 13:48           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 14:10             ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-03 15:01               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-04 12:57                 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-04 14:42                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 14:53                     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-09 15:40                       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-09 15:54                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 16:30                           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-09 16:57                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 17:27                               ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-09 15:56                         ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-09 16:25                           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-28  7:14     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-29 18:47       ` Chris Li
2025-08-29 19:18     ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 13:41       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 12:01         ` Chris Li
2025-09-04 17:34           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 14:48             ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-01 16:23     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-01 16:54       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-01 17:21         ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-01 19:02           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-02 11:38             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 15:59               ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-03 16:40                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 19:29                 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-02 11:58         ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-01 17:01       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-02 11:44         ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-03 14:17           ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-03 19:39             ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-04 12:39               ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 30/30] docs: add documentation for memfd preservation via LUO Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 00/30] Live Update Orchestrator David Hildenbrand
2025-08-08 12:24   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-08 13:53     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 13:52   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 13:16 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-26 13:54   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 14:24     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-26 15:02       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 15:13         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-26 16:10           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 16:22             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-26 17:03               ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 17:08                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-27 14:01                 ` Pratyush Yadav

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