From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 07/30] kho: add interfaces to unpreserve folios and physical memory ranges
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 12:12:10 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJ756q-wWJV37fMm@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250814132233.GB802098@nvidia.com>
On Thu, Aug 14, 2025 at 10:22:33AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 07, 2025 at 01:44:13AM +0000, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> > +int kho_unpreserve_phys(phys_addr_t phys, size_t size)
> > +{
>
> Why are we adding phys apis? Didn't we talk about this before and
> agree not to expose these?
>
> The places using it are goofy:
>
> +static int luo_fdt_setup(void)
> +{
> + fdt_out = (void *)__get_free_pages(GFP_KERNEL | __GFP_ZERO,
> + get_order(LUO_FDT_SIZE));
>
> + ret = kho_preserve_phys(__pa(fdt_out), LUO_FDT_SIZE);
>
> + WARN_ON_ONCE(kho_unpreserve_phys(__pa(fdt_out), LUO_FDT_SIZE));
>
> It literally allocated a page and then for some reason switches to
> phys with an open coded __pa??
>
> This is ugly, if you want a helper to match __get_free_pages() then
> make one that works on void * directly. You can get the order of the
> void * directly from the struct page IIRC when using GFP_COMP.
>
> Which is perhaps another comment, if this __get_free_pages() is going
> to be a common pattern (and I guess it will be) then the API should be
> streamlined alot more:
>
> void *kho_alloc_preserved_memory(gfp, size);
> void kho_free_preserved_memory(void *);
This looks backwards to me. KHO should not deal with memory allocation,
it's responsibility to preserve/restore memory objects it supports.
For __get_free_pages() the natural KHO API is kho_(un)preserve_pages().
With struct page/mesdesc we always have page_to_<specialized object> from
one side and page_to_pfn from the other side.
Then folio and phys/virt APIS just become a thin wrappers around the _page
APIs. And down the road we can add slab and maybe vmalloc.
Once folio won't overlap struct page, we'll have a hard time with only
kho_preserve_folio() for memory that's not actually folio (i.e. anon and
page cache)
> Which can wrapper the get_free_pages and the preserve logic and gives
> a nice path to possibly someday supporting non-PAGE_SIZE allocations.
>
> Jason
>
--
Sincerely yours,
Mike.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-15 9:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-07 1:44 [PATCH v3 00/30] Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 01/30] kho: init new_physxa->phys_bits to fix lockdep Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 11:42 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-08 11:52 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-08 14:00 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 19:06 ` Andrew Morton
2025-08-08 19:51 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 20:19 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-14 14:57 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 02/30] kho: mm: Don't allow deferred struct page with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 11:47 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-08 14:01 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 03/30] kho: warn if KHO is disabled due to an error Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 11:48 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 04/30] kho: allow to drive kho from within kernel Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 05/30] kho: make debugfs interface optional Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 06/30] kho: drop notifiers Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 07/30] kho: add interfaces to unpreserve folios and physical memory ranges Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-14 15:05 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 17:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-15 9:12 ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2025-08-18 13:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-21 22:20 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-25 5:26 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 08/30] kho: don't unpreserve memory during abort Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 14:57 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 09/30] liveupdate: kho: move to kernel/liveupdate Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-30 8:35 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-22 14:54 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 10/30] liveupdate: luo_core: luo_ioctl: Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 15:00 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 11/30] liveupdate: luo_core: integrate with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 12/30] liveupdate: luo_subsystems: add subsystem registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 13/30] liveupdate: luo_subsystems: implement subsystem callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 14/30] liveupdate: luo_files: add infrastructure for FDs Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 15/30] liveupdate: luo_files: implement file systems callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 16/30] liveupdate: luo_ioctl: add userpsace interface Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 21:09 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 17/30] liveupdate: luo_files: luo_ioctl: Unregister all FDs on device close Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-27 15:34 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-22 21:23 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-23 13:13 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 18/30] liveupdate: luo_files: luo_ioctl: Add ioctls for per-file state management Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 14:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 23:17 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 19/30] liveupdate: luo_sysfs: add sysfs state monitoring Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 16:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-26 18:58 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-09 1:07 ` yanjun.zhu
2025-10-09 5:20 ` Greg KH
2025-10-09 10:58 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-09 12:01 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-09 14:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-09 15:34 ` Zhu Yanjun
2025-10-09 17:04 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-09 17:30 ` Yanjun.Zhu
2025-10-09 17:56 ` Yanjun.Zhu
2025-10-09 23:12 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-10 6:39 ` Greg KH
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 20/30] reboot: call liveupdate_reboot() before kexec Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 21/30] kho: move kho debugfs directory to liveupdate Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 22/30] liveupdate: add selftests for subsystems un/registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 23/30] selftests/liveupdate: add subsystem/state tests Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 24/30] docs: add luo documentation Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 25/30] MAINTAINERS: add liveupdate entry Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 26/30] mm: shmem: use SHMEM_F_* flags instead of VM_* flags Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-11 23:11 ` Vipin Sharma
2025-08-13 12:42 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 27/30] mm: shmem: allow freezing inode mapping Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 28/30] mm: shmem: export some functions to internal.h Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 29/30] luo: allow preserving memfd Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 20:22 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-13 12:44 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13 6:34 ` Vipin Sharma
2025-08-13 7:09 ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 12:02 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13 12:14 ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 12:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-13 13:00 ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 13:37 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13 13:41 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-13 13:53 ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 13:53 ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 20:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-13 13:31 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13 12:29 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13 13:49 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-13 13:55 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-26 16:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-27 15:03 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-28 12:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-28 23:00 ` Chris Li
2025-09-01 17:10 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-02 13:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 14:10 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-03 15:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-04 12:57 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-04 14:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 14:53 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-09 15:40 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-09 15:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 16:30 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-09 16:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 17:27 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-09 15:56 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-09 16:25 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-28 7:14 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-29 18:47 ` Chris Li
2025-08-29 19:18 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 13:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 12:01 ` Chris Li
2025-09-04 17:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 14:48 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-01 16:23 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-01 16:54 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-01 17:21 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-01 19:02 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-02 11:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 15:59 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-03 16:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 19:29 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-02 11:58 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-01 17:01 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-02 11:44 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-03 14:17 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-03 19:39 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-04 12:39 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-07 1:44 ` [PATCH v3 30/30] docs: add documentation for memfd preservation via LUO Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 00/30] Live Update Orchestrator David Hildenbrand
2025-08-08 12:24 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-08 13:53 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 13:52 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 13:16 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-26 13:54 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 14:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-26 15:02 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 15:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-26 16:10 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 16:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-26 17:03 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 17:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-27 14:01 ` Pratyush Yadav
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