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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
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	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	"Christian Brauner (Amutable)" <brauner@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by references
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2026 15:04:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a296bc68-f36b-4db6-abbf-cf565c7cd3c0@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <as4pAEnLd4H68W4W@gremlin>

On 13/10/2026 14:59, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2026 at 02:31:32PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2026 at 04:42:46PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
> 
>>> The tag's useful for push back on review,
>>
>> That's the point I raised during the maintainer summit. It's actually
>> the *absence* of a tag that helps me push back on review. It allows me
>> to ask submitters if they forgot to add the tag, and in many cases (so
>> far) they simply don't reply.
> 
> While the tag's useful for pushback, pushing back is the issue.
> 
> The asymmetry between submitter volume/reviewer bandwidth is the MOST
> CRITICAL issue we face.
> 
> If reviewers are required to reply to all of these people, the project's
> dead, AFAIC.
> 
> Ignoring is the only workable long-term solution.

That was also mentioned by a few people according to Jon's report on LWN:
https://lwn.net/Articles/1099594/

and I think I could agree with that "ignore". IOW, we should change the
contract offer we give to people (see Greg's commitment in "I don't want
your code": "Review your patch within 1-2 weeks") to "if I suspect LLM
waste of my time, I might never respond".

Best regards,
Krzysztof

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-13 13:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-09  8:31 [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by references Sasha Levin
2026-10-09  9:38 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-09 10:09   ` Sasha Levin
2026-10-09 10:05 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-09 10:24   ` Greg KH
2026-10-09 15:20   ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-10-11  1:04     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-10-12 15:42   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 11:19     ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 12:38       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 12:50         ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 13:01           ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:24         ` Ricardo B. Marlière (SUSE)
2026-10-13 12:49       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 12:31     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 12:59       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 13:04         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2026-10-13 13:07           ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 13:12         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:29           ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 13:37             ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 14:52             ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 14:54               ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 14:58               ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 15:02               ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13  4:24 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13  5:56   ` Randy Dunlap
2026-10-13  6:18     ` Greg KH
2026-10-13  8:25     ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 12:28       ` [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by reference Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 12:55         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:03           ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 13:10             ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:20               ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 13:55                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 15:18           ` Mark Brown

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