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From: Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, "Michael Roth" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/23] hw/uefi: add var-service-core.c
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2025 10:51:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a39a1cfb-7d98-485e-98aa-9c03300f4be2@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5whdvrcqkpted5wl53yo5qbq2g4bf4j57vrzvbsebho56xfz4w@mjpktoiarmto>


On 14.02.25 08:55, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>    Hi,
>
>>> How do your patches pick the transfer mode?  Is that dictated by the
>>> host?  Or is the guest free to choose?  In case of the latter:  How does
>>> the guest decide what to do?
>> In our version, the guest gets to pick. It defaults to the DMA interface
>> unless it detects that it's running either the macOS logic (a case you can
>> ignore for now) or is running with SEV-SNP.
>>
>> I think for the upstream interface, it would be best to have the host
>> indicate which one it recommends the guest to use. That way you can force
>> the fallback path without requiring tedious edk2 changes.
> I'm more thinking about a hard switch, i.e. the host would support only
> the one or the other.  That way we'll go need less register space,
> because we'll need either the buffer location register (dma mode) or the
> pio transfer register (pio mode) but not both at the same time so they
> can share the location.


The nice thing about supporting both in the hypervisor and advertising 
preference is that a minimal guest firmware could choose to only support 
the safe one. Given the simplicity of the DMA protocol, it's not a hill 
I will die on though :).

I also like to have dedicated register spaces per component. So even if 
you choose to make it a hard split, I think we're better off with 4k at 
0xfef10000 for control and 64k at 0xfef20000 for the buffer for example. 
Even in the buffer case, you need some control registers. And you want 
to leave the door open to making the buffer space be a direct RAM map, 
which means you want to make it a page granule of the largest typical 
page size (64k).


>
>>> 0xfef1000 seems to be free, which is kida fun b/c of the 'ef1' in the
>>> address.
>> True, I love it! :)
>>
>> It's not enough address space to fit the full 64k buffer though, right?
>> Would all of 0xfef00000 be free by chance? Then you could just direct map
>> the transfer buffer there.
> All of 0xfef00000 is 1M, i.e. 16 x 64k.


Oh, there was a missing 0! So the target space is really 64k right now 
(0xfef10000).


Alex


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-14  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-11  9:22 [PATCH v3 00/23] hw/uefi: add uefi variable service Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:22 ` [PATCH v3 01/23] hw/uefi: add include/hw/uefi/var-service-api.h Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 02/23] hw/uefi: add include/hw/uefi/var-service-edk2.h Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 03/23] hw/uefi: add include/hw/uefi/var-service.h Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 04/23] hw/uefi: add var-service-guid.c Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 05/23] hw/uefi: add var-service-utils.c Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 06/23] hw/uefi: add var-service-vars.c Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 07/23] hw/uefi: add var-service-auth.c Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 08/23] hw/uefi: add var-service-policy.c Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 09/23] hw/uefi: add var-service-core.c Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:45   ` Alexander Graf
2025-02-12 10:24     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-12 11:30       ` Alexander Graf
2025-02-12 12:28         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-12 13:45           ` Alexander Graf
2025-02-12 15:18             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-12 21:26               ` Alexander Graf
2025-02-13  9:28                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-02-13 10:06                   ` Alexander Graf
2025-02-13  9:52                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-13 10:14                   ` Alexander Graf
2025-02-13 14:54                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-13 22:25                       ` Alexander Graf
2025-02-14  7:55                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-14  9:51                           ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2025-02-14 11:16                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-14 12:22                               ` Alexander Graf
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 10/23] hw/uefi: add var-service-pkcs7.c Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 11/23] hw/uefi: add var-service-pkcs7-stub.c Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 12/23] hw/uefi: add var-service-siglist.c Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 13/23] hw/uefi: add var-service-json.c + qapi for NV vars Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 14/23] hw/uefi: add trace-events Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 15/23] hw/uefi: add UEFI_VARS to Kconfig Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 16/23] hw/uefi: add to meson Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 17/23] hw/uefi: add uefi-vars-sysbus device Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 18/23] hw/uefi-vars-sysbus: qemu platform bus support Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 19/23] hw/uefi-vars-sysbus: allow for arm virt Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 20/23] hw/uefi: add uefi-vars-isa device Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 21/23] hw/uefi-vars-isa: add acpi device Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 22/23] docs: add uefi variable service documentation Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-11  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 23/23] hw/uefi: add MAINTAINERS entry Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-13  9:41 ` [PATCH v3 00/23] hw/uefi: add uefi variable service Ard Biesheuvel
2025-02-13 10:11   ` Alexander Graf
2025-02-13 10:13     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-02-20 12:43       ` Ilias Apalodimas

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