From: "Zhu, Lingshan" <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
To: "Uminski, Piotr" <Piotr.Uminski@intel.com>,
Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] Re: [RFC PATCH 4/5] virtqueue: constraints for virtqueue state
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 16:42:51 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a4acfe61-0eff-d487-a62e-5bb523bf3d54@intel.com> (raw)
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On 8/17/2023 4:31 PM, Uminski, Piotr wrote:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org <virtio-comment@lists.oasis-
>> open.org> On Behalf Of Zhu, Lingshan
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 1:30 PM
>> To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
>> Cc: mst@redhat.com; eperezma@redhat.com; cohuck@redhat.com; virtio-
>> comment@lists.oasis-open.org; virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org
>> Subject: [virtio-comment] Re: [RFC PATCH 4/5] virtqueue: constraints for
>> virtqueue state
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/15/2023 8:34 AM, Jason Wang wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 7:29 PM Zhu Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> This commit specifies the constraints of the virtqueue state,
>>>> and the actions should be taken by the device when SUSPEND
>>>> and DRIVER_OK is set
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Zhu Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> content.tex | 31 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> 1 file changed, 31 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
>>>> index 43bd5de..f6ac581 100644
>>>> --- a/content.tex
>>>> +++ b/content.tex
>>>> @@ -587,6 +587,37 @@ \subsection{\field{Used State} Field}
>>>>
>>>> See also \ref{sec:Packed Virtqueues / Driver and Device Ring Wrap
>> Counters}.
>>>> +\drivernormative{\subsection}{Virtqueue State}{Basic Facilities of a Virtio
>> Device / Virtqueue State}
>>>> +
>>>> +If VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE has been negotiated, the driver MUST set
>> SUSPEND in \field{device status}
>>>> +first before getting or setting Virtqueue State of any virtqueues.
>>> I don't get why this is a must. It could be useful for debugging.
>> To avoid race conditions with the device and make the device
>> implementation easier
> It should be possible to set Virtqueue State in two states:
> - Before DRIVER_OK - as a part of the queue creation at target system
> - After SUSPEND - when the device was activated and then suspended
> Setting state on active device can produce random results and should be forbidden.
> We may allow to get Virtqueue State on active device, without SUSPEND. However, we should not mandate the device
> to report correct value - on some implementations it may be impossible without suspend.
I agree
>>>> +
>>>> +If VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE has been negotiaged but
>> VIRTIO_RING_F_PACKED not been negotiated,
>>> typo
>> yes
>>>> +the driver MUST NOT access \field{Used State} of any virtqueues, it should
>> use the
>>>> +used index in the used ring.
>>>> +
>>>> +\devicenormative{\subsection}{Virtqueue State}{Basic Facilities of a Virtio
>> Device / Virtqueue State}
>>>> +
>>>> +If VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE has been negotiated but SUSPEND is not set in
>> \field{device status},
>>>> +the device MUST ignore any accesses against Virtqueue State of any
>> virtqueues.
>>> Btw, do we need to clarify the behavior of ring reset after suspending?
>> I think once suspended, the device should ignore resetting a queue
>>>> +
>>>> +When VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE has been negotiated but
>> VIRTIO_RING_F_PACKED is not,
>>>> +the device MUST ignore any accesses against \field{Used State}.
>>>> +
>>>> +If VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE has been negotiaged, the device MUST reset
>>>> +the Virtqueue State of every virtqueue upon a reset.
>>> Need to define the meaning of "reset" this is important for packed virtqueue.
>> I will remove this as Stefan suggested.
>>>> +
>>>> +If VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE and VIRTIO_RING_F_PACKED have been
>> negotiaged, when SUSPEND is set,
>>>> +the device MUST record the Virtqueue State of every enabled virtqueue
>>>> +in \field{Available State} and \field{Used State} respectively,
>>>> +and correspondingly restore the Virtqueue State of every enabled virtqueue
>>>> +from \field{Avaiable State} and \field{Used State} when DRIVER_OK is set.
>>> We can just let the device report those states in any case then we
>>> don't need to care about those details, or did you see any blockers?
>> Agree, I will add the definition of used_state of splitted vq in the
>> next version
>>
>> Thanks
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>> +
>>>> +If VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE has been negotiated but
>> VIRTIO_RING_F_PACKED has been not, when SUSPEND is set,
>>>> +the device MUST record the available state of every enabled virtqueue in
>> \field{Available State},
>>>> +and restore the available state of every enabled virtqueue from
>> \field{Avaiable State}
>>>> +when DRIVER_OK is set.
>>>> +
>>>> \input{admin.tex}
>>>>
>>>> \chapter{General Initialization And Device Operation}\label{sec:General
>> Initialization And Device Operation}
>>>> --
>>>> 2.35.3
>>>>
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From: "Zhu, Lingshan" <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
To: "Uminski, Piotr" <Piotr.Uminski@intel.com>,
Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: "mst@redhat.com" <mst@redhat.com>,
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Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] Re: [RFC PATCH 4/5] virtqueue: constraints for virtqueue state
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 16:42:51 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a4acfe61-0eff-d487-a62e-5bb523bf3d54@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR11MB3517EF23D99CE4FDA8DDB22DFF1AA@SN6PR11MB3517.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On 8/17/2023 4:31 PM, Uminski, Piotr wrote:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org <virtio-comment@lists.oasis-
>> open.org> On Behalf Of Zhu, Lingshan
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 1:30 PM
>> To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
>> Cc: mst@redhat.com; eperezma@redhat.com; cohuck@redhat.com; virtio-
>> comment@lists.oasis-open.org; virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org
>> Subject: [virtio-comment] Re: [RFC PATCH 4/5] virtqueue: constraints for
>> virtqueue state
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/15/2023 8:34 AM, Jason Wang wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 7:29 PM Zhu Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> This commit specifies the constraints of the virtqueue state,
>>>> and the actions should be taken by the device when SUSPEND
>>>> and DRIVER_OK is set
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Zhu Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> content.tex | 31 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> 1 file changed, 31 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
>>>> index 43bd5de..f6ac581 100644
>>>> --- a/content.tex
>>>> +++ b/content.tex
>>>> @@ -587,6 +587,37 @@ \subsection{\field{Used State} Field}
>>>>
>>>> See also \ref{sec:Packed Virtqueues / Driver and Device Ring Wrap
>> Counters}.
>>>> +\drivernormative{\subsection}{Virtqueue State}{Basic Facilities of a Virtio
>> Device / Virtqueue State}
>>>> +
>>>> +If VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE has been negotiated, the driver MUST set
>> SUSPEND in \field{device status}
>>>> +first before getting or setting Virtqueue State of any virtqueues.
>>> I don't get why this is a must. It could be useful for debugging.
>> To avoid race conditions with the device and make the device
>> implementation easier
> It should be possible to set Virtqueue State in two states:
> - Before DRIVER_OK - as a part of the queue creation at target system
> - After SUSPEND - when the device was activated and then suspended
> Setting state on active device can produce random results and should be forbidden.
> We may allow to get Virtqueue State on active device, without SUSPEND. However, we should not mandate the device
> to report correct value - on some implementations it may be impossible without suspend.
I agree
>>>> +
>>>> +If VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE has been negotiaged but
>> VIRTIO_RING_F_PACKED not been negotiated,
>>> typo
>> yes
>>>> +the driver MUST NOT access \field{Used State} of any virtqueues, it should
>> use the
>>>> +used index in the used ring.
>>>> +
>>>> +\devicenormative{\subsection}{Virtqueue State}{Basic Facilities of a Virtio
>> Device / Virtqueue State}
>>>> +
>>>> +If VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE has been negotiated but SUSPEND is not set in
>> \field{device status},
>>>> +the device MUST ignore any accesses against Virtqueue State of any
>> virtqueues.
>>> Btw, do we need to clarify the behavior of ring reset after suspending?
>> I think once suspended, the device should ignore resetting a queue
>>>> +
>>>> +When VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE has been negotiated but
>> VIRTIO_RING_F_PACKED is not,
>>>> +the device MUST ignore any accesses against \field{Used State}.
>>>> +
>>>> +If VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE has been negotiaged, the device MUST reset
>>>> +the Virtqueue State of every virtqueue upon a reset.
>>> Need to define the meaning of "reset" this is important for packed virtqueue.
>> I will remove this as Stefan suggested.
>>>> +
>>>> +If VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE and VIRTIO_RING_F_PACKED have been
>> negotiaged, when SUSPEND is set,
>>>> +the device MUST record the Virtqueue State of every enabled virtqueue
>>>> +in \field{Available State} and \field{Used State} respectively,
>>>> +and correspondingly restore the Virtqueue State of every enabled virtqueue
>>>> +from \field{Avaiable State} and \field{Used State} when DRIVER_OK is set.
>>> We can just let the device report those states in any case then we
>>> don't need to care about those details, or did you see any blockers?
>> Agree, I will add the definition of used_state of splitted vq in the
>> next version
>>
>> Thanks
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>> +
>>>> +If VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE has been negotiated but
>> VIRTIO_RING_F_PACKED has been not, when SUSPEND is set,
>>>> +the device MUST record the available state of every enabled virtqueue in
>> \field{Available State},
>>>> +and restore the available state of every enabled virtqueue from
>> \field{Avaiable State}
>>>> +when DRIVER_OK is set.
>>>> +
>>>> \input{admin.tex}
>>>>
>>>> \chapter{General Initialization And Device Operation}\label{sec:General
>> Initialization And Device Operation}
>>>> --
>>>> 2.35.3
>>>>
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2023-08-14 19:28 [virtio-comment] [RFC PATCH 0/5] virtio: introduce SUSPEND bit and vq state Zhu Lingshan
2023-08-14 19:28 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu Lingshan
2023-08-14 14:20 ` [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-14 14:20 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-14 15:47 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-14 15:47 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-15 1:38 ` Jason Wang
2023-08-15 1:38 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-08-15 10:14 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 10:14 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-14 19:29 ` [virtio-comment] [RFC PATCH 1/5] virtio: introduce SUSPEND bit in device status Zhu Lingshan
2023-08-14 19:29 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu Lingshan
2023-08-14 14:30 ` [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-14 14:30 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-15 10:31 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 10:31 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 12:29 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-15 12:29 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-17 15:15 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-08-17 15:15 ` [virtio-dev] " Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-08-17 16:04 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-17 16:04 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-18 9:55 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-18 9:55 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-21 13:45 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-21 13:45 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-15 0:26 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-08-15 0:26 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-08-15 0:37 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-08-15 0:37 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-08-15 10:48 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 10:48 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-16 1:58 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-08-16 1:58 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-08-16 2:17 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-16 2:17 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 10:50 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 10:50 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-16 2:05 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-08-16 2:05 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-08-16 2:20 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-16 2:20 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-14 19:29 ` [virtio-comment] [RFC PATCH 2/5] virtio: introduce vq state as basic facility Zhu Lingshan
2023-08-14 19:29 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu Lingshan
2023-08-14 14:49 ` [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-14 14:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-15 10:53 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 10:53 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-14 19:29 ` [virtio-comment] [RFC PATCH 3/5] virtio: The actions by the device upon SUSPEND Zhu Lingshan
2023-08-14 19:29 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu Lingshan
2023-08-14 15:00 ` [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-14 15:00 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-15 11:07 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 11:07 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 12:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-15 12:33 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-16 4:25 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-16 4:25 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-16 12:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-16 12:33 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-15 0:29 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-08-15 0:29 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-08-15 11:16 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 11:16 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-16 2:10 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-08-16 2:10 ` Jason Wang
2023-08-16 4:53 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-16 4:53 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-14 19:29 ` [virtio-comment] [RFC PATCH 4/5] virtqueue: constraints for virtqueue state Zhu Lingshan
2023-08-14 19:29 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu Lingshan
2023-08-14 15:15 ` [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-14 15:15 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-15 11:18 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 11:18 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 0:34 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-08-15 0:34 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-08-15 11:30 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 11:30 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-16 2:11 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-08-16 2:11 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-08-16 5:07 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-16 5:07 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-17 8:31 ` [virtio-comment] " Uminski, Piotr
2023-08-17 8:42 ` Zhu, Lingshan [this message]
2023-08-17 8:42 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-21 4:03 ` Jason Wang
2023-08-21 4:03 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-08-17 15:19 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-08-17 15:19 ` [virtio-dev] " Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-08-18 9:44 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-18 9:44 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-21 9:26 ` [virtio-comment] " Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-08-21 9:26 ` [virtio-dev] " Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-08-21 10:32 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-21 10:32 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-05 9:08 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-05 9:08 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-07 8:09 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-09-07 8:09 ` [virtio-dev] " Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-09-07 9:34 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-07 9:34 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-08 6:23 ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-09-08 6:23 ` [virtio-dev] " Si-Wei Liu
2023-09-08 8:41 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-08 8:41 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-14 19:29 ` [virtio-comment] [RFC PATCH 5/5] virtio-pci: implement VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE Zhu Lingshan
2023-08-14 19:29 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu Lingshan
2023-08-14 15:18 ` [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-14 15:18 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-15 11:31 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 11:31 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 0:35 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-08-15 0:35 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-08-15 11:31 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 11:31 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-17 3:04 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] virtio: introduce SUSPEND bit and vq state Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-17 3:04 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
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