RE: ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?

RE: ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?

[Adam K Kirchhoff]

Not too surprisingly, that doesn't work with the ymfpci driver :-)

Adam

On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:

> try
> alsaplayer -Dsurround40 foo.mp3
> 
> That works on a sb live.
> 
> Cheers
> James
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adam K Kirchhoff [mailto:adamk@voicenet.com]
> > Sent: 13 March 2002 14:26
> > To: James Courtier-Dutton
> > Cc: Xavier ALLAMIGEON; alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > Subject: RE: [Alsa-devel] ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
> >
> > > What command line do you use for aplay, alsaplayer.
> >
> > $ alsaplayer foo.mp3
> >
> > Will play on the front speakers.
> >
> > $ alsaplayer -Dhw:0,2 foo.mp3
> >
> > Will play on the rear speakers.
> >
> > I had almost this exact same conversation on this mailing list last month
> > and we came to the conclusion that there is no way to get the output to
> > default to both the front and rear speakers with the current setup.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > > For the device name, you can use "default", "front", "rear" and
> > "surround40"
> > > with a SB Live.(The card I have.) instead of "plug:0,0" or similar.
> > >
> > > What device names do you use for the ymfpci ?
> > > Cheers
> > > James
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Adam K Kirchhoff [mailto:adamk@voicenet.com]
> > > > Sent: 13 March 2002 13:58
> > > > To: James Courtier-Dutton
> > > > Cc: Xavier ALLAMIGEON; alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > > > Subject: RE: [Alsa-devel] ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, the ymfpci driver (with native Alsa support) only uses the front
> > > > speakers by default, unless the application (ie. aplay, alsaplayer) is
> > > > told the use the rear speakers. In either case, you can still only get
> > > > output on either the front or the rear :-)  So rewriting the
> > application
> > > > wouldn't necessarily solve the problem.
> > > >
> > > > Even if that wasn't the case, and rewring the application did
> > resolve the
> > > > issue, it doesn't really do the end user any good if they have to wait
> > > > around for every application (some of which may now be
> > unsupported) to be
> > > > rewritten to support Alsa natively :-)
> > > >
> > > > Adam
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Why not just change the app to support alsa 0.9.x.
> > > > > alsa 0.9.x is now in kernel 2.5.x, so the app should really move to
> > > > > supporting it anyway.
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > James
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > > > [mailto:alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Xavier
> > > > > > ALLAMIGEON
> > > > > > Sent: 12 March 2002 21:11
> > > > > > To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > > > > > Subject: [Alsa-devel] ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 	Good evening,
> > > > > > I have installed the alsa-driver0.9.0beta12 on my MDK8.1 (kernel
> > > > > > 2.4.18), and
> > > > > > my rear speakers work. For example with "aplay -Dhw:0,2 foo.wav".
> > > > > > Is this possible to use the four speakers together under alsa or
> > > > > > under the
> > > > > > OSS emulation, with a sound card based on the ymfpci modules ?
> > > > > > I know it works with a SBLive!. Besides, I have seen that
> > there are
> > > > > > interesting configuration files in /usr/share/alsa. What must I
> > > > > > do if I want
> > > > > > the changes of these files to take effect ?
> > > > > > Thanks for all !
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Alsa-devel mailing list
> > > > > > Alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Alsa-devel mailing list
> > > > > Alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?

[Xavier ALLAMIGEON]

	Good evening, 
I have installed the alsa-driver0.9.0beta12 on my MDK8.1 (kernel 2.4.18), and 
my rear speakers work. For example with "aplay -Dhw:0,2 foo.wav".
Is this possible to use the four speakers together under alsa or under the 
OSS emulation, with a sound card based on the ymfpci modules ?
I know it works with a SBLive!. Besides, I have seen that there are 
interesting configuration files in /usr/share/alsa. What must I do if I want 
the changes of these files to take effect ?
Thanks for all !

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Re: ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?

[Adam K Kirchhoff]

Unfortunately, it is not yet possible to use all four speakers with the
OSS emualtion.

Adam

> Good evening, 
> I have installed the alsa-driver0.9.0beta12 on my MDK8.1 (kernel 2.4.18), and 
> my rear speakers work. For example with "aplay -Dhw:0,2 foo.wav".
> Is this possible to use the four speakers together under alsa or under the 
> OSS emulation, with a sound card based on the ymfpci modules ?
> I know it works with a SBLive!. Besides, I have seen that there are 
> interesting configuration files in /usr/share/alsa. What must I do if I want 
> the changes of these files to take effect ?
> Thanks for all !


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RE: ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?

[James Courtier-Dutton]

Why not just change the app to support alsa 0.9.x.
alsa 0.9.x is now in kernel 2.5.x, so the app should really move to
supporting it anyway.
Cheers
James


> -----Original Message-----
> From: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net
> [mailto:alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Xavier
> ALLAMIGEON
> Sent: 12 March 2002 21:11
> To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> Subject: [Alsa-devel] ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?
>
>
> 	Good evening,
> I have installed the alsa-driver0.9.0beta12 on my MDK8.1 (kernel
> 2.4.18), and
> my rear speakers work. For example with "aplay -Dhw:0,2 foo.wav".
> Is this possible to use the four speakers together under alsa or
> under the
> OSS emulation, with a sound card based on the ymfpci modules ?
> I know it works with a SBLive!. Besides, I have seen that there are
> interesting configuration files in /usr/share/alsa. What must I
> do if I want
> the changes of these files to take effect ?
> Thanks for all !
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel


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RE: ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?

[Adam K Kirchhoff]

Well, the ymfpci driver (with native Alsa support) only uses the front
speakers by default, unless the application (ie. aplay, alsaplayer) is
told the use the rear speakers. In either case, you can still only get
output on either the front or the rear :-)  So rewriting the application
wouldn't necessarily solve the problem.

Even if that wasn't the case, and rewring the application did resolve the
issue, it doesn't really do the end user any good if they have to wait
around for every application (some of which may now be unsupported) to be
rewritten to support Alsa natively :-)

Adam

On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:

> Why not just change the app to support alsa 0.9.x.
> alsa 0.9.x is now in kernel 2.5.x, so the app should really move to
> supporting it anyway.
> Cheers
> James
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net
> > [mailto:alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Xavier
> > ALLAMIGEON
> > Sent: 12 March 2002 21:11
> > To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > Subject: [Alsa-devel] ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?
> >
> >
> > 	Good evening,
> > I have installed the alsa-driver0.9.0beta12 on my MDK8.1 (kernel
> > 2.4.18), and
> > my rear speakers work. For example with "aplay -Dhw:0,2 foo.wav".
> > Is this possible to use the four speakers together under alsa or
> > under the
> > OSS emulation, with a sound card based on the ymfpci modules ?
> > I know it works with a SBLive!. Besides, I have seen that there are
> > interesting configuration files in /usr/share/alsa. What must I
> > do if I want
> > the changes of these files to take effect ?
> > Thanks for all !
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Alsa-devel mailing list
> > Alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
> 
> 
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RE: ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?

[James Courtier-Dutton]

What command line do you use for aplay, alsaplayer.
For the device name, you can use "default", "front", "rear" and "surround40"
with a SB Live.(The card I have.) instead of "plug:0,0" or similar.

What device names do you use for the ymfpci ?
Cheers
James

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam K Kirchhoff [mailto:adamk@voicenet.com]
> Sent: 13 March 2002 13:58
> To: James Courtier-Dutton
> Cc: Xavier ALLAMIGEON; alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> Subject: RE: [Alsa-devel] ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?
>
>
>
> Well, the ymfpci driver (with native Alsa support) only uses the front
> speakers by default, unless the application (ie. aplay, alsaplayer) is
> told the use the rear speakers. In either case, you can still only get
> output on either the front or the rear :-)  So rewriting the application
> wouldn't necessarily solve the problem.
>
> Even if that wasn't the case, and rewring the application did resolve the
> issue, it doesn't really do the end user any good if they have to wait
> around for every application (some of which may now be unsupported) to be
> rewritten to support Alsa natively :-)
>
> Adam
>
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
>
> > Why not just change the app to support alsa 0.9.x.
> > alsa 0.9.x is now in kernel 2.5.x, so the app should really move to
> > supporting it anyway.
> > Cheers
> > James
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > [mailto:alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Xavier
> > > ALLAMIGEON
> > > Sent: 12 March 2002 21:11
> > > To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > > Subject: [Alsa-devel] ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?
> > >
> > >
> > > 	Good evening,
> > > I have installed the alsa-driver0.9.0beta12 on my MDK8.1 (kernel
> > > 2.4.18), and
> > > my rear speakers work. For example with "aplay -Dhw:0,2 foo.wav".
> > > Is this possible to use the four speakers together under alsa or
> > > under the
> > > OSS emulation, with a sound card based on the ymfpci modules ?
> > > I know it works with a SBLive!. Besides, I have seen that there are
> > > interesting configuration files in /usr/share/alsa. What must I
> > > do if I want
> > > the changes of these files to take effect ?
> > > Thanks for all !
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Alsa-devel mailing list
> > > Alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >
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RE: ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?

[Adam K Kirchhoff]

On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:

> What command line do you use for aplay, alsaplayer.

$ alsaplayer foo.mp3

Will play on the front speakers.

$ alsaplayer -Dhw:0,2 foo.mp3 

Will play on the rear speakers.

I had almost this exact same conversation on this mailing list last month
and we came to the conclusion that there is no way to get the output to
default to both the front and rear speakers with the current setup.

Adam

> For the device name, you can use "default", "front", "rear" and "surround40"
> with a SB Live.(The card I have.) instead of "plug:0,0" or similar.
> 
> What device names do you use for the ymfpci ?
> Cheers
> James
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adam K Kirchhoff [mailto:adamk@voicenet.com]
> > Sent: 13 March 2002 13:58
> > To: James Courtier-Dutton
> > Cc: Xavier ALLAMIGEON; alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > Subject: RE: [Alsa-devel] ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, the ymfpci driver (with native Alsa support) only uses the front
> > speakers by default, unless the application (ie. aplay, alsaplayer) is
> > told the use the rear speakers. In either case, you can still only get
> > output on either the front or the rear :-)  So rewriting the application
> > wouldn't necessarily solve the problem.
> >
> > Even if that wasn't the case, and rewring the application did resolve the
> > issue, it doesn't really do the end user any good if they have to wait
> > around for every application (some of which may now be unsupported) to be
> > rewritten to support Alsa natively :-)
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
> >
> > > Why not just change the app to support alsa 0.9.x.
> > > alsa 0.9.x is now in kernel 2.5.x, so the app should really move to
> > > supporting it anyway.
> > > Cheers
> > > James
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > [mailto:alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Xavier
> > > > ALLAMIGEON
> > > > Sent: 12 March 2002 21:11
> > > > To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > > > Subject: [Alsa-devel] ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 	Good evening,
> > > > I have installed the alsa-driver0.9.0beta12 on my MDK8.1 (kernel
> > > > 2.4.18), and
> > > > my rear speakers work. For example with "aplay -Dhw:0,2 foo.wav".
> > > > Is this possible to use the four speakers together under alsa or
> > > > under the
> > > > OSS emulation, with a sound card based on the ymfpci modules ?
> > > > I know it works with a SBLive!. Besides, I have seen that there are
> > > > interesting configuration files in /usr/share/alsa. What must I
> > > > do if I want
> > > > the changes of these files to take effect ?
> > > > Thanks for all !
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Alsa-devel mailing list
> > > > Alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Alsa-devel mailing list
> > > Alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
> > >
> >
> 
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RE: ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?

[Erik Inge Bolsø]

On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:
>Well, the ymfpci driver (with native Alsa support) only uses the front
>speakers by default, unless the application (ie. aplay, alsaplayer) is
>told the use the rear speakers. In either case, you can still only get
>output on either the front or the rear :-)  So rewriting the application
>wouldn't necessarily solve the problem.

Having fun with the a type = multi pcm on top of hw:0,0 and hw:0,2, then a
type = plug pcm with route_policy = copy parameter on top of that and the
aoss wrapper on top of that again should also do the trick, I imagine.

--
Erik I. Bolsø | email: <knan at mo.himolde.no>
The UNIX philosophy basically involves giving you enough rope to
hang yourself.  And then a couple of feet more, just to be sure.



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RE: ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?

[James Courtier-Dutton]

try
alsaplayer -Dsurround40 foo.mp3

That works on a sb live.

Cheers
James


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam K Kirchhoff [mailto:adamk@voicenet.com]
> Sent: 13 March 2002 14:26
> To: James Courtier-Dutton
> Cc: Xavier ALLAMIGEON; alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> Subject: RE: [Alsa-devel] ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?
>
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
>
> > What command line do you use for aplay, alsaplayer.
>
> $ alsaplayer foo.mp3
>
> Will play on the front speakers.
>
> $ alsaplayer -Dhw:0,2 foo.mp3
>
> Will play on the rear speakers.
>
> I had almost this exact same conversation on this mailing list last month
> and we came to the conclusion that there is no way to get the output to
> default to both the front and rear speakers with the current setup.
>
> Adam
>
> > For the device name, you can use "default", "front", "rear" and
> "surround40"
> > with a SB Live.(The card I have.) instead of "plug:0,0" or similar.
> >
> > What device names do you use for the ymfpci ?
> > Cheers
> > James
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Adam K Kirchhoff [mailto:adamk@voicenet.com]
> > > Sent: 13 March 2002 13:58
> > > To: James Courtier-Dutton
> > > Cc: Xavier ALLAMIGEON; alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > > Subject: RE: [Alsa-devel] ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, the ymfpci driver (with native Alsa support) only uses the front
> > > speakers by default, unless the application (ie. aplay, alsaplayer) is
> > > told the use the rear speakers. In either case, you can still only get
> > > output on either the front or the rear :-)  So rewriting the
> application
> > > wouldn't necessarily solve the problem.
> > >
> > > Even if that wasn't the case, and rewring the application did
> resolve the
> > > issue, it doesn't really do the end user any good if they have to wait
> > > around for every application (some of which may now be
> unsupported) to be
> > > rewritten to support Alsa natively :-)
> > >
> > > Adam
> > >
> > > On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
> > >
> > > > Why not just change the app to support alsa 0.9.x.
> > > > alsa 0.9.x is now in kernel 2.5.x, so the app should really move to
> > > > supporting it anyway.
> > > > Cheers
> > > > James
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > > [mailto:alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Xavier
> > > > > ALLAMIGEON
> > > > > Sent: 12 March 2002 21:11
> > > > > To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > > > > Subject: [Alsa-devel] ymfpci : four speakers with OSS-emulation ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 	Good evening,
> > > > > I have installed the alsa-driver0.9.0beta12 on my MDK8.1 (kernel
> > > > > 2.4.18), and
> > > > > my rear speakers work. For example with "aplay -Dhw:0,2 foo.wav".
> > > > > Is this possible to use the four speakers together under alsa or
> > > > > under the
> > > > > OSS emulation, with a sound card based on the ymfpci modules ?
> > > > > I know it works with a SBLive!. Besides, I have seen that
> there are
> > > > > interesting configuration files in /usr/share/alsa. What must I
> > > > > do if I want
> > > > > the changes of these files to take effect ?
> > > > > Thanks for all !
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Alsa-devel mailing list
> > > > > Alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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