From: Armin Wolf <W_Armin@gmx.de>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: "Werner Sembach" <wse@tuxedocomputers.com>,
"Benjamin Tissoires" <bentiss@kernel.org>,
"Hans de Goede" <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, jelle@vdwaa.nl,
jikos@kernel.org, lee@kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org,
miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com, ojeda@kernel.org,
onitake@gmail.com, platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] platform/x86/tuxedo: Add virtual LampArray for TUXEDO NB04 devices
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:26:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a796f0e7-47a8-40fa-a64e-9dd56117bf78@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZwlDpCPhieF3tezX@duo.ucw.cz>
Am 11.10.24 um 17:26 schrieb Pavel Machek:
> Hi!
>
>>> 1.
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/6b32fb73-0544-4a68-95ba-e82406a4b188@gmx.de/
>>> -> Should be no problem? Because this is not generally exposing wmi
>>> calls, just mapping two explicitly with sanitized input (whitelisting
>>> basically).
>> It would be OK to expose a selected set of WMI calls to userspace and sanitizing the input of protect potentially buggy firmware from userspace.
>>
> I don't believe this is good idea. Passthrough interfaces where
> userland talks directly to hardware are very tricky.
>
>> Regarding the basic idea of having a virtual HID interface: i would prefer to create a illumination subsystem instead, but i have to agree that we should be doing this
>> only after enough drivers are inside the kernel, so we can design a
>> suitable interface for them. For now, creating a virtual HID
>> interface seems to be good enough.
> I have an RGB keyboard, and would like to get it supported. I already
> have kernel driver for LEDs (which breaks input functionality). I'd
> like to cooperate on "illumination" subsystem.
>
> Best regards,
> Pavel
Sorry for taking a bit long to respond.
This "illumination" subsystem would (from my perspective) act like some sort of LED subsystem
for devices with a high count of LEDs, like some RGB keyboards.
This would allow us too:
- provide an abstract interface for userspace applications like OpenRGB
- provide an generic LED subsystem emulation on top of the illumination device (optional)
- support future RGB controllers in a generic way
Advanced features like RGB effects, etc can be added later should the need arise.
I would suggest that we model it after the HID LampArray interface:
- interface for querying:
- number of LEDs
- supported colors, etc of those LEDs
- position of those LEDs if available
- kind (keyboard, ...)
- latency, etc
- interface for setting multiple LEDs at once
- interface for setting a range of LEDs at once
- interface for getting the current LED colors
Since sysfs has a "one value per file" rule, i suggest that we use a chardev interface
for querying per-LED data and for setting/getting LED colors.
I do not know if mixing sysfs (for controller attributes like number of LEDs, etc) and IOCTL
(for setting/getting LED colors) is a good idea, any thoughts?
Thanks,
Armin Wolf
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-21 20:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-26 17:44 [PATCH 0/1] platform/x86/tuxedo: Add virtual LampArray for TUXEDO NB04 Werner Sembach
2024-09-26 17:44 ` [PATCH 1/1] platform/x86/tuxedo: Add virtual LampArray for TUXEDO NB04 devices Werner Sembach
2024-09-26 18:39 ` Armin Wolf
2024-09-27 6:59 ` Werner Sembach
2024-09-27 11:24 ` Werner Sembach
2024-09-27 17:18 ` Armin Wolf
2024-09-28 7:40 ` Werner Sembach
2024-09-27 17:15 ` Armin Wolf
2024-09-28 7:36 ` Werner Sembach
2024-09-27 8:59 ` kernel test robot
2024-09-27 9:20 ` kernel test robot
2024-09-27 12:18 ` kernel test robot
2024-09-27 21:01 ` Pavel Machek
2024-09-27 22:21 ` Armin Wolf
2024-09-28 7:27 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-09-28 8:23 ` Werner Sembach
2024-09-28 10:05 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-09-30 15:35 ` Werner Sembach
2024-09-30 16:15 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-09-30 16:35 ` Werner Sembach
2024-09-30 17:06 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-01 12:21 ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-01 12:23 ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-01 12:28 ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-01 13:41 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-01 16:45 ` Armin Wolf
2024-10-01 19:32 ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-02 8:42 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-02 9:27 ` Armin Wolf
2024-10-03 16:01 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-01 19:18 ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-02 8:31 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-07 17:57 ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-08 9:53 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-08 10:45 ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-08 12:18 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-08 14:51 ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-08 15:21 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-09 9:51 ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-09 9:55 ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-11 12:14 ` Armin Wolf
2024-10-11 15:26 ` Pavel Machek
2024-10-21 20:26 ` Armin Wolf [this message]
2024-10-22 7:58 ` Hans de Goede
2024-10-22 8:51 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-22 9:37 ` Pavel Machek
2024-10-22 15:02 ` Armin Wolf
2024-10-23 17:54 ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-22 9:47 ` Pavel Machek
2024-10-22 15:18 ` Armin Wolf
2024-10-22 19:15 ` Pavel Machek
2024-10-23 7:03 ` Armin Wolf
2024-10-23 17:14 ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-23 17:47 ` Pavel Machek
2024-10-23 16:38 ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-22 9:05 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-23 17:23 ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-01 21:03 ` Pavel Machek
2024-10-02 8:13 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-02 9:53 ` Pavel Machek
2024-10-02 10:21 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-03 10:59 ` Pavel Machek
2024-10-03 12:54 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-11 15:23 ` Pavel Machek
2024-09-28 8:09 ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-01 20:47 ` Pavel Machek
2024-09-28 7:55 ` Werner Sembach
2024-09-27 16:08 ` [PATCH 0/1] platform/x86/tuxedo: Add virtual LampArray for TUXEDO NB04 Benjamin Tissoires
2024-09-27 21:03 ` Pavel Machek
2024-09-28 7:31 ` Werner Sembach
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