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From: Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Armin Wolf <W_Armin@gmx.de>
Cc: "Hans de Goede" <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	"Benjamin Tissoires" <bentiss@kernel.org>,
	"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, jelle@vdwaa.nl,
	jikos@kernel.org, lee@kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org,
	miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com, ojeda@kernel.org,
	onitake@gmail.com, platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] platform/x86/tuxedo: Add virtual LampArray for TUXEDO NB04 devices
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:14:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c0791e1d-a63f-40fd-bcb8-5f2eec15c59e@tuxedocomputers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zxf5u9jgmt9vpz2u@duo.ucw.cz>

Hi

Am 22.10.24 um 21:15 schrieb Pavel Machek:
> Hi!
>
>>>>> - interface for setting multiple LEDs at once
>>>>> - interface for setting a range of LEDs at once
>>> How are LEDs ordered? I don't believe range makes much sense.
>> Range would allow for efficiently changing the color of all LEDs. But i agree
>> that this can be considered optional and can be added later.
> Yep, setting all of them makes sense. We should probably provide
> backward-compatible interface for keyboards with single backlight, so
> this would likely be LED class.
>
>>>> Personally I really like the idea to just emulate a HID LampArray device
>>>> for this instead or rolling our own API.  I believe there need to be
>>>> strong arguments to go with some alternative NIH API and I have not
>>>> heard such arguments yet.
>>> If you don't want "some alternative API", we already have perfectly
>>> working API for 2D arrays of LEDs. I believe I mentioned it before
>>> :-). Senzrohssre.
>> We may have to support 3D arrays of LEDs, so using a simple framebuffer
>> would likely cause trouble.
> Do you have pointer for device that is 3D?

The example from the spec is a keyboard with lightbars on the side, the we 
actually sell notebooks with similar led configurations (mostly on the front and 
not on the side). Example is the Sirius I implemented which has a not yet 
implemented lightbar on the front.

Another usecase is probably ergonomic keyboards, but I cannot tell you a real 
world example atm.

>
> OpenRGB manages to map keyboard into plane... so what I'd propose is
> this:
>
> Framebuffer
> Information for each pixel:
> 	    present ? (displays with missing pixels are pretty common)
> 	    list of keys related to this pixel
> 	    width, height, length (if we know them)
>
> Pixels map to keys M:N.

How would iso-enter be mapped here?

How would the q-key be mapped relative the the 1-key? (they are exactly halve a 
key offset)

would it be:
~,1,2
tab,q,w

or:

~,1,2
tab,missing pixel,q

Regards

Werner

>
> Yes, we'll have some number of non-present pixels, but again, I
> believe that's not uncommon due to round screens, etc.
>
> (But I'm fine with other interfaces, as long as they are "normal")
>
> Best regards,
> 								Pavel
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-10-23 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-26 17:44 [PATCH 0/1] platform/x86/tuxedo: Add virtual LampArray for TUXEDO NB04 Werner Sembach
2024-09-26 17:44 ` [PATCH 1/1] platform/x86/tuxedo: Add virtual LampArray for TUXEDO NB04 devices Werner Sembach
2024-09-26 18:39   ` Armin Wolf
2024-09-27  6:59     ` Werner Sembach
2024-09-27 11:24       ` Werner Sembach
2024-09-27 17:18         ` Armin Wolf
2024-09-28  7:40           ` Werner Sembach
2024-09-27 17:15       ` Armin Wolf
2024-09-28  7:36         ` Werner Sembach
2024-09-27  8:59   ` kernel test robot
2024-09-27  9:20   ` kernel test robot
2024-09-27 12:18   ` kernel test robot
2024-09-27 21:01   ` Pavel Machek
2024-09-27 22:21     ` Armin Wolf
2024-09-28  7:27       ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-09-28  8:23         ` Werner Sembach
2024-09-28 10:05           ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-09-30 15:35             ` Werner Sembach
2024-09-30 16:15               ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-09-30 16:35                 ` Werner Sembach
2024-09-30 17:06                   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-01 12:21                     ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-01 12:23                     ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-01 12:28                       ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-01 13:41                       ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-01 16:45                         ` Armin Wolf
2024-10-01 19:32                           ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-02  8:42                             ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-02  9:27                               ` Armin Wolf
2024-10-03 16:01                                 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-01 19:18                         ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-02  8:31                           ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-07 17:57                             ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-08  9:53                               ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-08 10:45                                 ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-08 12:18                                   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-08 14:51                                     ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-08 15:21                                       ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-09  9:51                                         ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-09  9:55                                         ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-11 12:14                                           ` Armin Wolf
2024-10-11 15:26                                             ` Pavel Machek
2024-10-21 20:26                                               ` Armin Wolf
2024-10-22  7:58                                                 ` Hans de Goede
2024-10-22  8:51                                                   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-22  9:37                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2024-10-22 15:02                                                       ` Armin Wolf
2024-10-23 17:54                                                         ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-22  9:47                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2024-10-22 15:18                                                     ` Armin Wolf
2024-10-22 19:15                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2024-10-23  7:03                                                         ` Armin Wolf
2024-10-23 17:14                                                         ` Werner Sembach [this message]
2024-10-23 17:47                                                           ` Pavel Machek
2024-10-23 16:38                                                     ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-22  9:05                                           ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-23 17:23                                             ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-01 21:03                         ` Pavel Machek
2024-10-02  8:13                           ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-02  9:53                             ` Pavel Machek
2024-10-02 10:21                               ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-03 10:59                                 ` Pavel Machek
2024-10-03 12:54                                   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-10-11 15:23                                     ` Pavel Machek
2024-09-28  8:09       ` Werner Sembach
2024-10-01 20:47         ` Pavel Machek
2024-09-28  7:55     ` Werner Sembach
2024-09-27 16:08 ` [PATCH 0/1] platform/x86/tuxedo: Add virtual LampArray for TUXEDO NB04 Benjamin Tissoires
2024-09-27 21:03   ` Pavel Machek
2024-09-28  7:31   ` Werner Sembach

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