From: Nicola Vetrini <nicola.vetrini@bugseng.com>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: "Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
victorm.lira@amd.com,
"Federico Serafini" <federico.serafini@bugseng.com>,
"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
"Anthony PERARD" <anthony.perard@vates.tech>,
"Michal Orzel" <michal.orzel@amd.com>,
"Julien Grall" <julien@xen.org>,
"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
"Bertrand Marquis" <bertrand.marquis@arm.com>,
xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] misra: add deviation for rules 21.1 and 21.2
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2025 17:53:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a9db045cff906a4b7db8730ad1095e4b@bugseng.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8d65ee65-ec6f-49a3-8954-d303b08dc2df@suse.com>
On 2025-04-25 10:07, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 24.04.2025 23:45, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2025, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> On 23.04.2025 19:54, victorm.lira@amd.com wrote:
>>>> From: Nicola Vetrini <nicola.vetrini@bugseng.com>
>>>>
>>>> MISRA C Rules 21.1 ("#define and #undef shall not be used on a
>>>> reserved identifier or reserved macro name") and R21.2 ("A reserved
>>>> identifier or reserved macro name shall not be declared") violations
>>>> are not problematic for Xen, as it does not use the C or POSIX
>>>> libraries.
>>>>
>>>> Xen uses -fno-builtin and -nostdinc to ensure this, but there are
>>>> still
>>>> __builtin_* functions from the compiler that are available so
>>>> a deviation is formulated for all identifiers not starting with
>>>> "__builtin_".
>>>>
>>>> The missing text of a deviation for Rule 21.2 is added to
>>>> docs/misra/deviations.rst.
>>>>
>>>> To avoid regressions, tag both rules as clean and add them to the
>>>> monitored set.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Nicola Vetrini <nicola.vetrini@bugseng.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Federico Serafini <federico.serafini@bugseng.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Victor Lira <victorm.lira@amd.com>
>>>
>>> While the rule is in the library section, ...
>>>
>>>> --- a/docs/misra/deviations.rst
>>>> +++ b/docs/misra/deviations.rst
>>>> @@ -587,7 +587,31 @@ Deviations related to MISRA C:2012 Rules:
>>>> construct is deviated only in Translation Units that present
>>>> a violation
>>>> of the Rule due to uses of this macro.
>>>> - Tagged as `deliberate` for ECLAIR.
>>>> -
>>>> +
>>>> + * - R21.1
>>>> + - Rule 21.1 reports identifiers reserved for the C and POSIX
>>>> standard
>>>> + libraries. Xen does not use such libraries and all
>>>> translation units
>>>> + are compiled with option '-nostdinc', therefore there is no
>>>> reason to
>>>> + avoid to use `#define` or `#undef` on such identifiers
>>>> except for those
>>>> + beginning with `__builtin_` for which compilers may perform
>>>> (wrong)
>>>> + optimizations.
>>>> + - Tagged as `safe` for ECLAIR.
>>>
>>> ... I'd like to ask that it be explicitly clarified here that it's
>>> solely
>>> the library (and not e.g. the compiler itself) that are of concern
>>> here.
>>
>> The language can be clarified:
>>
>> - Rule 21.1 reports identifiers reserved for the C and POSIX standard
>> libraries. Xen does not use such libraries and all translation units
>> are compiled with option '-nostdinc', therefore there is no reason
>> to
>> avoid to use `#define` or `#undef` on C and POSIX standard libraries
>> identifiers except for those beginning with `__builtin_` for which
>> compilers may perform (wrong) optimizations.
>
> Which makes it more apparent that there is a gap: What about e.g.
> __x86_64__?
> That falls within what the rules cover, is not a C or POSIX standard
> library
> identifier, yet very clearly must not be fiddled with. Whereas the text
> above deviates it.
>
Hi Jan,
that is true, even if unlikely: one approach could be to avoid deviating
predefined macros for all CUs as -nostdinc and -fno-builtins should take
care of the rest; this kind of deviation is not currently possible in
ECLAIR, but it might be in the future. I think this could be
accomplished also via some gcc trickery on each CU, though I'm not sure
how valued that is for Xen.
--
Nicola Vetrini, B.Sc.
Software Engineer
BUGSENG (https://bugseng.com)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicola-vetrini-a42471253
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-25 15:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-23 17:54 [PATCH v1] misra: add deviation for rules 21.1 and 21.2 victorm.lira
2025-04-23 17:54 ` [PATCH v1] misra: add deviation of Rule 5.5 victorm.lira
2025-04-23 18:16 ` Lira, Victor M
2025-04-23 20:41 ` Stefano Stabellini
2025-04-24 6:10 ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-24 11:58 ` Andrew Cooper
2025-04-23 20:45 ` Stefano Stabellini
2025-04-23 20:49 ` Stefano Stabellini
2025-04-23 17:54 ` [PATCH v1] misra: add deviation of Rule 10.1 for unary minus victorm.lira
2025-04-23 18:06 ` Lira, Victor M
2025-04-23 20:47 ` Stefano Stabellini
2025-04-23 20:48 ` Julien Grall
2025-04-23 21:09 ` Nicola Vetrini
2025-04-23 21:12 ` Julien Grall
2025-04-23 21:21 ` Stefano Stabellini
2025-04-23 20:44 ` [PATCH v1] misra: add deviation for rules 21.1 and 21.2 Stefano Stabellini
2025-04-24 6:15 ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-24 21:45 ` Stefano Stabellini
2025-04-25 8:07 ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-25 15:53 ` Nicola Vetrini [this message]
2025-04-28 6:15 ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-28 8:09 ` Nicola Vetrini
2025-04-28 9:04 ` Jan Beulich
2025-04-28 15:54 ` Nicola Vetrini
2025-07-02 9:55 ` Dmytro Prokopchuk1
2025-07-02 10:17 ` Nicola Vetrini
2025-07-17 20:47 ` Dmytro Prokopchuk1
2025-07-18 5:31 ` Jan Beulich
2025-07-18 9:17 ` Dmytro Prokopchuk1
2025-07-18 9:28 ` Dmytro Prokopchuk1
2025-07-18 11:08 ` Nicola Vetrini
2025-07-18 18:41 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2025-07-18 10:08 ` Jan Beulich
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