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From: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
To: Pawel Chmielewski <pawel.chmielewski@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	aelior@marvell.com, manishc@marvell.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org, "Greenwalt,
	Paul" <paul.greenwalt@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH iwl-next v2 2/9] ethtool: Add forced speed to supported link modes maps
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 15:19:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a9fee3a7-8c31-e048-32eb-ed82b8233aee@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZOZISCYNWEKqBotb@baltimore>

From: Pawel Chmielewski <pawel.chmielewski@intel.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 19:56:24 +0200

> On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 12:20:43PM -0700, Greenwalt, Paul wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 8/20/2023 11:54 AM, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 02:39:41AM -0700, Paul Greenwalt wrote:
>>>> The need to map Ethtool forced speeds to  Ethtool supported link modes is
>>>> common among drivers. To support this move the supported link modes maps
>>>> implementation from the qede driver. This is an efficient solution
>>>> introduced in commit 1d4e4ecccb11 ("qede: populate supported link modes
>>>> maps on module init") for qede driver.
>>>>
>>>> ethtool_forced_speed_maps_init() should be called during driver init
>>>> with an array of struct ethtool_forced_speed_map to populate the
>>>> mapping. The macro ETHTOOL_FORCED_SPEED_MAP is a helper to initialized
>>>> the struct ethtool_forced_speed_map.
>>>
>>> Is there any way to reuse this table:
>>>
>>> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/net/phy/phy-core.c#L161
>>>
>>> Seems silly to have multiple tables if this one can be made to work.
>>> It is also used a lot more than anything you will add, which has just
>>> two users so far, so problems with it a likely to be noticed faster.
>>>
>>> 	Andrew
>>
>> Yes, we'll can look into that.

BTW,

drivers/net/ethernet/qlogic/qed/qed_main.c
drivers/net/pcs/pcs-xpcs.c

also have similar stuff and could probably make use of the generic stuff
you're doing as well (qed_main was also done by me).
Not speaking of

drivers/net/phy/phylink.c

We probably should unify all that...

Let me think how we could do that.
Andrew's idea is good. But most high-speed NICs, which have a standalone
management firmware for PHY, don't use phylib/phylink.
So in order to be able to unify all that, they should have ->supported
bitmap somewhere else. Not sure struct net_device is the best place...

If I recall Phylink logics correctly (it's been a while since I last
time was working with my embedded project),

1) in the NIC (MAC) driver, you initialize ->supported with *speeds* and
   stuff like duplex, no link modes;
2) Phylink core sets the corresponding link mode bits;
3) phylib core then clears the bits unsupported by the PHY IIRC

The third step in case with those NICs with FW-managed PHYs should be
done manually in the MAC driver somewhere. Like "I am qede and I don't
support mode XX at 50Gbps, but support the rest, so I clear that one bit".
Then the networking core should be able to play this association game
itself. That would remove a good amount of boilerplating.

> 
> I think it would be better to leave the maps in the code of respective drivers, as they are too much hardware related. 
> Even for a single speed, the sets of supported link modes may vary between the devices.
> _______________________________________________
> Intel-wired-lan mailing list
> Intel-wired-lan@osuosl.org
> https://lists.osuosl.org/mailman/listinfo/intel-wired-lan

Thanks,
Olek
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From: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
To: Pawel Chmielewski <pawel.chmielewski@intel.com>
Cc: "Greenwalt, Paul" <paul.greenwalt@intel.com>,
	<aelior@marvell.com>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	<intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org>, <manishc@marvell.com>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH iwl-next v2 2/9] ethtool: Add forced speed to supported link modes maps
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 15:19:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a9fee3a7-8c31-e048-32eb-ed82b8233aee@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZOZISCYNWEKqBotb@baltimore>

From: Pawel Chmielewski <pawel.chmielewski@intel.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 19:56:24 +0200

> On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 12:20:43PM -0700, Greenwalt, Paul wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 8/20/2023 11:54 AM, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 02:39:41AM -0700, Paul Greenwalt wrote:
>>>> The need to map Ethtool forced speeds to  Ethtool supported link modes is
>>>> common among drivers. To support this move the supported link modes maps
>>>> implementation from the qede driver. This is an efficient solution
>>>> introduced in commit 1d4e4ecccb11 ("qede: populate supported link modes
>>>> maps on module init") for qede driver.
>>>>
>>>> ethtool_forced_speed_maps_init() should be called during driver init
>>>> with an array of struct ethtool_forced_speed_map to populate the
>>>> mapping. The macro ETHTOOL_FORCED_SPEED_MAP is a helper to initialized
>>>> the struct ethtool_forced_speed_map.
>>>
>>> Is there any way to reuse this table:
>>>
>>> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/net/phy/phy-core.c#L161
>>>
>>> Seems silly to have multiple tables if this one can be made to work.
>>> It is also used a lot more than anything you will add, which has just
>>> two users so far, so problems with it a likely to be noticed faster.
>>>
>>> 	Andrew
>>
>> Yes, we'll can look into that.

BTW,

drivers/net/ethernet/qlogic/qed/qed_main.c
drivers/net/pcs/pcs-xpcs.c

also have similar stuff and could probably make use of the generic stuff
you're doing as well (qed_main was also done by me).
Not speaking of

drivers/net/phy/phylink.c

We probably should unify all that...

Let me think how we could do that.
Andrew's idea is good. But most high-speed NICs, which have a standalone
management firmware for PHY, don't use phylib/phylink.
So in order to be able to unify all that, they should have ->supported
bitmap somewhere else. Not sure struct net_device is the best place...

If I recall Phylink logics correctly (it's been a while since I last
time was working with my embedded project),

1) in the NIC (MAC) driver, you initialize ->supported with *speeds* and
   stuff like duplex, no link modes;
2) Phylink core sets the corresponding link mode bits;
3) phylib core then clears the bits unsupported by the PHY IIRC

The third step in case with those NICs with FW-managed PHYs should be
done manually in the MAC driver somewhere. Like "I am qede and I don't
support mode XX at 50Gbps, but support the rest, so I clear that one bit".
Then the networking core should be able to play this association game
itself. That would remove a good amount of boilerplating.

> 
> I think it would be better to leave the maps in the code of respective drivers, as they are too much hardware related. 
> Even for a single speed, the sets of supported link modes may vary between the devices.
> _______________________________________________
> Intel-wired-lan mailing list
> Intel-wired-lan@osuosl.org
> https://lists.osuosl.org/mailman/listinfo/intel-wired-lan

Thanks,
Olek

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-25 13:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-19  9:39 [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH iwl-next v2 2/9] ethtool: Add forced speed to supported link modes maps Paul Greenwalt
2023-08-19  9:39 ` Paul Greenwalt
2023-08-20 14:45 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Simon Horman
2023-08-20 14:45   ` Simon Horman
2023-08-20 17:29   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Greenwalt, Paul
2023-08-20 17:29     ` Greenwalt, Paul
2023-08-20 18:54 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Andrew Lunn
2023-08-20 18:54   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-08-20 19:20   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Greenwalt, Paul
2023-08-20 19:20     ` Greenwalt, Paul
2023-08-23 17:56     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Pawel Chmielewski
2023-08-23 17:56       ` Pawel Chmielewski
2023-08-23 18:09       ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jacob Keller
2023-08-23 18:09         ` Jacob Keller
2023-08-23 20:58         ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Andrew Lunn
2023-08-23 20:58           ` Andrew Lunn
2023-08-25 13:19       ` Alexander Lobakin [this message]
2023-08-25 13:19         ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Lobakin
2023-08-25 13:47         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-08-25 13:47           ` Andrew Lunn
2023-08-25 13:57           ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-08-25 13:57             ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-08-31 13:08           ` Pawel Chmielewski
2023-08-31 13:08             ` Pawel Chmielewski
2023-09-03 14:00             ` Andrew Lunn
2023-09-03 14:00               ` Andrew Lunn
2023-09-04 15:27               ` Pawel Chmielewski
2023-09-04 15:27                 ` Pawel Chmielewski
2023-09-14 14:27               ` Pawel Chmielewski
2023-09-14 14:27                 ` Pawel Chmielewski
2023-09-15 13:41                 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-09-15 13:41                   ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-09-15 13:58                   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-09-15 13:58                     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-09-15 13:53                 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-09-15 13:53                   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-08-21 13:00 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-08-21 13:00   ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-08-24 10:18 ` kernel test robot
2023-08-24 10:18   ` kernel test robot

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