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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Siddharth Vadapalli <s-vadapalli@ti.com>
Cc: Matthias Schiffer <matthias.schiffer@ew.tq-group.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
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	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Andy Whitcroft <apw@canonical.com>,
	Dwaipayan Ray <dwaipayanray1@gmail.com>,
	Lukas Bulwahn <lukas.bulwahn@gmail.com>,
	Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>, Vignesh Raghavendra <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	Roger Quadros <rogerq@kernel.org>,
	Tero Kristo <kristo@kernel.org>,
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	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux@ew.tq-group.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/4] dt-bindings: net: ethernet-controller: update descriptions of RGMII modes
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 09:41:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aAdWU4xPc2UOU5wu@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5d74d4b2-f442-4cb8-910e-cb1cc7eb2b3d@ti.com>

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 05:25:23PM +0530, Siddharth Vadapalli wrote:
> For a fixed PHY,

No such thing in reality. The kernel has an obsolete idea of a fixed PHY
which is a software-emulated PHY to represent a fixed link, but that is
basically dead with phylink (there is now no PHY for fixed links under
phylink).

As I stated, "phy-mode" describes how the MAC needs to configure its
PHY facing interface, whether there is or is not a PHY present. One can
argue that it's misnamed, but it's buried in deep DT history going back
decades, and there's a rule that we don't break backwards compatibility.

-- 
RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-04-22  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-15 10:18 [PATCH net-next 0/4] RGMII mode clarification + am65-cpsw fix Matthias Schiffer
2025-04-15 10:18 ` [PATCH net-next 1/4] dt-bindings: net: ethernet-controller: update descriptions of RGMII modes Matthias Schiffer
2025-04-15 10:36   ` Siddharth Vadapalli
2025-04-15 11:28     ` Matthias Schiffer
2025-04-15 11:55       ` Siddharth Vadapalli
2025-04-16  7:41         ` Matthias Schiffer
2025-04-22  8:56           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-22 14:40             ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-22  8:41         ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2025-04-18 20:40     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-22  8:37     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-15 10:54   ` Maxime Chevallier
2025-04-18 20:26   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-21 18:42   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-04-21 19:20   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-22 15:00     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-22 15:31       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-28 11:29         ` Matthias Schiffer
2025-04-28 14:08           ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-28 14:28             ` Siddharth Vadapalli
2025-04-28 14:45               ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-29  7:24             ` Matthias Schiffer
2025-04-29 12:08               ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-30  7:33                 ` Matthias Schiffer
2025-04-15 10:18 ` [PATCH net-next 2/4] dt-bindings: net: ti: k3-am654-cpsw-nuss: update phy-mode in example Matthias Schiffer
2025-04-15 10:58   ` Maxime Chevallier
2025-04-18 20:48   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-21 18:44   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-04-30 14:22   ` Roger Quadros
2025-05-07  9:51     ` Matthias Schiffer
2025-04-15 10:18 ` [PATCH net-next 3/4] net: ethernet: ti: am65-cpsw: fixup PHY mode for fixed RGMII TX delay Matthias Schiffer
2025-04-15 11:06   ` Maxime Chevallier
2025-04-18 20:50   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-30 14:56   ` Roger Quadros
2025-04-30 16:15     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-15 10:18 ` [PATCH net-next 4/4] checkpatch: check for comment explaining rgmii(|-rxid|-txid) PHY modes Matthias Schiffer
2025-04-15 11:15   ` Maxime Chevallier
2025-04-15 11:21     ` Matthias Schiffer
2025-04-15 12:46       ` Maxime Chevallier
2025-04-15 13:12     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-06-24  9:50       ` Matthias Schiffer
2025-04-15 13:20   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-15 13:36     ` Matthias Schiffer
2025-04-15 13:37       ` Matthias Schiffer
2025-04-17 10:28         ` Paolo Abeni
2025-04-15 16:11   ` Joe Perches
2025-04-16  7:48     ` Matthias Schiffer

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