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From: Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Luo Jie <quic_luoj@quicinc.com>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	Julia Lawall <Julia.Lawall@inria.fr>,
	Nicolas Palix <nicolas.palix@imag.fr>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cocci@inria.fr,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	quic_kkumarcs@quicinc.com, quic_linchen@quicinc.com,
	quic_leiwei@quicinc.com, quic_suruchia@quicinc.com,
	quic_pavir@quicinc.com
Subject: Re: [cocci] [PATCH v3 0/6] Add FIELD_MODIFY() helper
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 14:44:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aAk1H0Msi3lMKNR9@yury> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aAkm79R8f5Vf6TLh@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 06:44:15PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 11:08:38AM -0400, Yury Norov wrote:
> > The _replace_bits() functions return fixed-width values, and intended
> > for: "manipulating bitfields both in host- and fixed-endian", as the
> > very first line in the commit message says.
> > 
> > Those using _replace_bits() for something else abuse the API, and
> > should switch to FIELD_MODIFY().
> 
> Sorry, but please explain this statement, because it means nothing to
> me.
> 
> FIELD_MODIFY() replaces bits in host endian. _replace_bits() also
> replaces bits, but has a wider range of which encompass FIELD_MODIFY().
> 
> I see nothing that precludes using using _replace_bits() with
> bitfields.
> 
> I see nothing that would differentiate the behaviour, other than maybe
> religous ideals about C functions vs macros or upper vs lower case.

Interesting, never heard about religious ideals in C.
 
> Please explain why you think there's a difference between the two
> because I really can't see any reason not to use one over the other
> apart from asthetics.

I explained that in subtread for 4/6 in this series. Shortly it's
about compiler's ability to catch various errors, like overflows,
and (not unlikely) generated code quality.

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From: Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Luo Jie <quic_luoj@quicinc.com>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	Julia Lawall <Julia.Lawall@inria.fr>,
	Nicolas Palix <nicolas.palix@imag.fr>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cocci@inria.fr,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	quic_kkumarcs@quicinc.com, quic_linchen@quicinc.com,
	quic_leiwei@quicinc.com, quic_suruchia@quicinc.com,
	quic_pavir@quicinc.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/6] Add FIELD_MODIFY() helper
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 14:44:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aAk1H0Msi3lMKNR9@yury> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aAkm79R8f5Vf6TLh@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 06:44:15PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 11:08:38AM -0400, Yury Norov wrote:
> > The _replace_bits() functions return fixed-width values, and intended
> > for: "manipulating bitfields both in host- and fixed-endian", as the
> > very first line in the commit message says.
> > 
> > Those using _replace_bits() for something else abuse the API, and
> > should switch to FIELD_MODIFY().
> 
> Sorry, but please explain this statement, because it means nothing to
> me.
> 
> FIELD_MODIFY() replaces bits in host endian. _replace_bits() also
> replaces bits, but has a wider range of which encompass FIELD_MODIFY().
> 
> I see nothing that precludes using using _replace_bits() with
> bitfields.
> 
> I see nothing that would differentiate the behaviour, other than maybe
> religous ideals about C functions vs macros or upper vs lower case.

Interesting, never heard about religious ideals in C.
 
> Please explain why you think there's a difference between the two
> because I really can't see any reason not to use one over the other
> apart from asthetics.

I explained that in subtread for 4/6 in this series. Shortly it's
about compiler's ability to catch various errors, like overflows,
and (not unlikely) generated code quality.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-24  8:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-17 10:47 [cocci] [PATCH v3 0/6] Add FIELD_MODIFY() helper Luo Jie
2025-04-17 10:47 ` Luo Jie
2025-04-17 10:47 ` [cocci] [PATCH v3 1/6] bitfield: " Luo Jie
2025-04-17 10:47   ` Luo Jie
2025-04-18 17:11   ` [cocci] " Yury Norov
2025-04-18 17:11     ` Yury Norov
2025-04-23 13:05     ` [cocci] " Jie Luo
2025-04-23 13:05       ` Jie Luo
2025-04-17 10:47 ` [cocci] [PATCH v3 2/6] coccinelle: misc: Add field_modify script Luo Jie
2025-04-17 10:47   ` Luo Jie
2025-04-23 11:01   ` [cocci] " Markus Elfring
2025-04-23 13:04     ` Jie Luo
2025-04-23 16:35       ` Markus Elfring
2025-05-19 13:44         ` Luo Jie
2025-05-19 15:39           ` Julia Lawall
2025-04-17 10:47 ` [cocci] [PATCH v3 3/6] arm64: tlb: Convert the opencoded field modify Luo Jie
2025-04-17 10:47   ` Luo Jie
2025-04-17 18:11   ` [cocci] " Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-17 18:11     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-23 13:15     ` [cocci] " Jie Luo
2025-04-23 13:15       ` Jie Luo
2025-04-24 15:24       ` [cocci] " Keller, Jacob E
2025-04-23 16:54     ` Keller, Jacob E
2025-04-17 10:47 ` [cocci] [PATCH v3 4/6] arm64: nvhe: " Luo Jie
2025-04-17 10:47   ` Luo Jie
2025-04-17 11:23   ` [cocci] " Marc Zyngier
2025-04-17 11:23     ` Marc Zyngier
2025-04-18 15:14     ` [cocci] " Yury Norov
2025-04-18 15:14       ` Yury Norov
2025-04-18 15:34       ` [cocci] " Marc Zyngier
2025-04-18 15:34         ` Marc Zyngier
2025-04-23 17:48       ` [cocci] " Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-23 17:48         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-23 18:27         ` [cocci] " Yury Norov
2025-04-23 18:27           ` Yury Norov
2025-04-23 19:11           ` [cocci] " Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-23 19:11             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-23 19:40             ` [cocci] " Yury Norov
2025-04-23 19:40               ` Yury Norov
2025-04-17 10:47 ` [cocci] [PATCH v3 5/6] arm64: kvm: " Luo Jie
2025-04-17 10:47   ` Luo Jie
2025-04-17 10:47 ` [cocci] [PATCH v3 6/6] arm64: mm: " Luo Jie
2025-04-17 10:47   ` Luo Jie
2025-04-17 11:10 ` [cocci] [PATCH v3 0/6] Add FIELD_MODIFY() helper Marc Zyngier
2025-04-17 11:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2025-04-17 17:22   ` [cocci] " Andrew Lunn
2025-04-17 17:22     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-17 17:45     ` [cocci] " Marc Zyngier
2025-04-17 17:45       ` Marc Zyngier
2025-04-18 15:08       ` [cocci] " Yury Norov
2025-04-18 15:08         ` Yury Norov
2025-04-18 15:35         ` [cocci] " Marc Zyngier
2025-04-18 15:35           ` Marc Zyngier
2025-04-18 17:04           ` [cocci] " Yury Norov
2025-04-18 17:04             ` Yury Norov
2025-04-23 13:19             ` [cocci] " Jie Luo
2025-04-23 13:19               ` Jie Luo
2025-04-23 17:44         ` [cocci] " Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-23 17:44           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-23 18:44           ` Yury Norov [this message]
2025-04-23 18:44             ` Yury Norov

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