From: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>
To: Jacopo Mondi <jacopo.mondi@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, bingbu.cao@linux.intel.com,
stanislaw.gruszka@linux.intel.com, tian.shu.qiu@intel.com,
tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com,
laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/13] media: v4l2-mc: Introduce v4l2_mc_pipeline_enabled()
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 08:10:54 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aFZpDpP45IsKLmGA@valkosipuli.retiisi.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <zubhgen5vcjeadujrufagjd3h6rp5va7d7n27fqisc23kr35sn@sg4mwenwnbmc>
Hi Jacopo,
Thank you for the comments.
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:53:13AM +0200, Jacopo Mondi wrote:
> Hi Sakari
>
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 11:15:45AM +0300, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > v4l2_mc_pipeline_enabled() helps solving a problem known for long but
> > lacked any sort of general solution: with multiple streams, when streaming
> > is started on video nodes one by one, when should streaming be started in
> > the source?
>
> I tried quite some time to understand this, but if I'm not mistaken,
> a stream-aware subdev, which links to vdev, will always "demux"
> streams to different pads and will connect to the vdev from there
>
>
> Source
> subdev
> +-----------------+
> | (1/0) ------> vdev0
> | |
> (0)[1,2,3] (2/0 ------> vdev1
> | |
> | (3/0) ------> vdev2
> +-----------------+
>
> With
>
> (0) multiplexed sink pad with 3 streams
> (1) (2) and (3) source pad with a single stream
>
> Can't we relay on the media-link state between the source pads and the
> video devices with something like what Dan has proposed here ?
> https://patchwork.linuxtv.org/project/linux-media/patch/20250519140403.443915-2-dan.scally@ideasonboard.com/
>
> What am I missing ?
There are two different concepts here that are probably underdocumented at
the moment: Media entity pipeline state and then when and in which order
streaming control is applied on hardware. But... maybe the latter can be
derived from the former when it comes to video nodes. The pipeline is set
for entities that are upstream from the video device, it's not set on
downstream entities. I'll see if I could use that instead. Otherwise, I'll
check if Dan's approach could be used for the purpose.
--
Regards,
Sakari Ailus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-21 8:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-19 8:15 [PATCH 00/13] Streaming control for MC with metadata or streams otherwise Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 8:15 ` [PATCH 01/13] media: ipu6: Use correct pads for xlate_streams() Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 13:27 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-19 13:55 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 14:15 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-19 14:28 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 15:08 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-19 8:15 ` [PATCH 02/13] media: ipu6: Set minimum height to 1 Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 13:27 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-19 8:15 ` [PATCH 03/13] media: ipu6: Enable and disable each stream at CSI-2 subdev source pad Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 12:23 ` kernel test robot
2025-06-19 12:48 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-19 13:10 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 13:19 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-19 13:52 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 8:15 ` [PATCH 04/13] media: v4l2-subdev: Add a helper to figure out the pad streaming state Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 13:37 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-19 8:15 ` [PATCH 05/13] media: v4l: Make media_entity_to_video_device() NULL-safe Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 15:20 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-19 16:14 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-07-08 11:56 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-07-08 12:02 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-07-08 16:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-07-09 20:03 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-07-09 20:54 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-07-10 6:57 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 8:15 ` [PATCH 06/13] media: v4l2-subdev: Mark both streams of a route enabled Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 16:56 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-19 18:34 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 22:18 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-25 16:10 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-06-26 15:22 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-06-26 19:13 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-26 15:17 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-06-27 6:09 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-06-30 0:47 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-19 8:15 ` [PATCH 07/13] media: ipu6: Set up CSI-2 receiver at correct moment Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 17:00 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-19 17:20 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 8:15 ` [PATCH 08/13] media: v4l2-subdev: Print early in v4l2_subdev_{enable,disable}_streams() Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 17:03 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-25 16:12 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 8:15 ` [PATCH 09/13] media: v4l2-subdev: Collect streams on source pads only Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 17:07 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-25 16:14 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 8:15 ` [PATCH 10/13] media: v4l2-subdev: Add debug prints to v4l2_subdev_collect_streams() Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 22:23 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-25 16:28 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 8:15 ` [PATCH 11/13] media: v4l2-subdev: Introduce v4l2_subdev_find_route() Sakari Ailus
2025-06-20 8:14 ` Jacopo Mondi
2025-06-25 16:53 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-06-26 22:20 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-07-15 14:09 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 8:15 ` [PATCH 12/13] media: v4l2-mc: Introduce v4l2_mc_pipeline_enabled() Sakari Ailus
2025-06-19 11:42 ` kernel test robot
2025-06-20 3:58 ` Dan Carpenter
2025-06-20 8:53 ` Jacopo Mondi
2025-06-21 8:10 ` Sakari Ailus [this message]
2025-07-15 10:49 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-07-15 11:25 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-07-15 11:32 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-07-15 18:18 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-23 9:48 ` kernel test robot
2025-06-26 23:07 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-04 11:32 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-08-04 11:46 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-19 8:15 ` [PATCH 13/13] media: ipu6: isys: Rework stream starting and stopping Sakari Ailus
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2025-06-20 3:32 [PATCH 12/13] media: v4l2-mc: Introduce v4l2_mc_pipeline_enabled() kernel test robot
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