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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>,
	"Steve Sistare" <steven.sistare@oracle.com>
Cc: Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>, Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	Zhenzhong Duan <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 20/38] migration: close kvm after cpr
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 17:58:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aGb87SVQE6OzQMoT@x1.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d588c137-423a-4609-b5b5-66f6f135b12a@redhat.com>

On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 11:21:38PM +0200, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
> On 7/3/25 21:45, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 02, 2025 at 03:41:08PM -0400, Steven Sistare wrote:
> > > The irq producer is not closed, but it is detached from the kvm consumer.
> > > It's eventfd is preserved in new QEMU, and interrupts that arrive during
> > > transition are pended there.
> > 
> > Ah I see, looks reasonable.
> > 
> > So can I understand the core issue here is about the irq consumer /
> > provider updates are atomic, meanwhile there's always the fallback paths
> > ready, so before / after the update the irq won't get lost?
> > 
> > E.g. in Post-Interrupt context of Intel's, the irte will be updated
> > atomically for these VFIO irqs, so that either it'll keep using the fast
> > path (provided by the irqbypass mechanism), or slow path (eventfd_signal),
> > so it's free of any kind of race that irq could trigger?
> > 
> > I saw that there's already a new version and Cedric queued it.  If possible
> > add some explanation into commit message, either when repost, or when
> > merge, would be nice, on explaning irq won't get lost.
> yes.
> 
> Steve, just resend the patch. I will update the vfio queue.
> Or we can address that with a follow up patch before QEMU 10.1
> is released.

I've just noticed maybe I was wrong that slow path was always present.
We've closed the kvm so likely the slow path is gone..

So I think I misunderstood, and Steve likely meant the irq will be
persisted in eventfd, which is still true if the irq eventfds are persisted
and passed over (I didn't check the patchset, but I'm assuming this is the
case).

Then I found, yes, indeed when irqfd is re-established on dest qemu, we
have such tricky code:

kvm_irqfd_assign():

	/*
	 * Check if there was an event already pending on the eventfd
	 * before we registered, and trigger it as if we didn't miss it.
	 */
	events = vfs_poll(fd_file(f), &irqfd->pt);

	if (events & EPOLLIN)
		schedule_work(&irqfd->inject);

I've no idea whether it was intended to do this as the code was there since
2009, maybe this chunk of code is the core of why irq won't get lost for
CPR.  But in all cases, it can be a pretty tricky spot to prove that cpr
works and looks important piece of info.

Personally I'm ok doing it on top of what's queued.  Maybe such explanation
on how it works should be put directly into docs/../cpr.rst?

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-03 21:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-10 15:39 [PATCH V5 00/38] Live update: vfio and iommufd Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 01/38] migration: cpr helpers Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 02/38] migration: lower handler priority Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 03/38] vfio/container: register container for cpr Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 04/38] vfio/container: preserve descriptors Steve Sistare
2025-06-23  9:07   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-01 14:25     ` Steven Sistare
2025-07-02 14:23       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 05/38] vfio/container: discard old DMA vaddr Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 06/38] vfio/container: restore " Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 07/38] vfio/container: mdev cpr blocker Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 08/38] vfio/container: recover from unmap-all-vaddr failure Steve Sistare
2025-08-13 12:54   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-08-13 14:18     ` Steven Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 09/38] pci: export msix_is_pending Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 10/38] pci: skip reset during cpr Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 11/38] vfio-pci: " Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 12/38] vfio/pci: vfio_pci_vector_init Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 13/38] vfio/pci: vfio_notifier_init Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 14/38] vfio/pci: pass vector to virq functions Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 15/38] vfio/pci: vfio_notifier_init cpr parameters Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 16/38] vfio/pci: vfio_notifier_cleanup Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 17/38] vfio/pci: export MSI functions Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 18/38] vfio-pci: preserve MSI Steve Sistare
2025-07-01 16:12   ` Steven Sistare
2025-07-02  7:17     ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-07-02 12:03       ` Steven Sistare
2025-07-02 15:35   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-07-02 16:40     ` Steven Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 19/38] vfio-pci: preserve INTx Steve Sistare
2025-07-02 15:23   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-07-02 17:54     ` Steven Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 20/38] migration: close kvm after cpr Steve Sistare
2025-07-01 15:25   ` Steven Sistare
2025-07-02 16:02     ` Peter Xu
2025-07-02 19:41       ` Steven Sistare
2025-07-03 19:45         ` Peter Xu
2025-07-03 21:21           ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-07-03 21:58             ` Peter Xu [this message]
2025-07-07 13:13               ` Steven Sistare
2025-07-01 17:49   ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 21/38] migration: cpr_get_fd_param helper Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 22/38] backends/iommufd: iommufd_backend_map_file_dma Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 23/38] backends/iommufd: change process ioctl Steve Sistare
2025-06-11 12:38   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-06-23  8:20   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 24/38] physmem: qemu_ram_get_fd_offset Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 25/38] vfio/iommufd: use IOMMU_IOAS_MAP_FILE Steve Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 26/38] vfio/iommufd: invariant device name Steve Sistare
2025-06-23  8:25   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 27/38] vfio/iommufd: add vfio_device_free_name Steve Sistare
2025-06-11 12:38   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-06-23  8:27   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-06-23 13:50   ` Eric Farman
2025-07-01 14:26     ` Steven Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 28/38] vfio/iommufd: device name blocker Steve Sistare
2025-06-23 10:29   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 29/38] vfio/iommufd: register container for cpr Steve Sistare
2025-07-01 14:25   ` Steven Sistare
2025-07-02 14:17   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-02 14:52     ` Steven Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 30/38] migration: vfio cpr state hook Steve Sistare
2025-06-24 11:24   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-01 14:26     ` Steven Sistare
2025-07-02 13:39       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-02 15:07         ` Steven Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 31/38] vfio/iommufd: cpr state Steve Sistare
2025-06-23 10:45   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-01 14:26     ` Steven Sistare
2025-07-02 13:44       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 32/38] vfio/iommufd: preserve descriptors Steve Sistare
2025-06-25 11:40   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-01 14:26     ` Steven Sistare
2025-07-02 14:08       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 33/38] vfio/iommufd: reconstruct device Steve Sistare
2025-06-25 11:40   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-01 14:26     ` Steven Sistare
2025-07-02 14:14       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 34/38] vfio/iommufd: reconstruct hwpt Steve Sistare
2025-06-25 11:40   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 35/38] vfio/iommufd: change process Steve Sistare
2025-06-25 11:40   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-01 14:26     ` Steven Sistare
2025-07-02 13:46       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-07-02 20:57         ` Steven Sistare
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 36/38] iommufd: preserve DMA mappings Steve Sistare
2025-06-25 11:40   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 37/38] vfio/container: delete old cpr register Steve Sistare
2025-06-25 11:40   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-06-10 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 38/38] vfio: doc changes for cpr Steve Sistare
2025-07-02 14:03   ` Steven Sistare
2025-07-02 14:49   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-07-02 17:52   ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-10 17:18 ` [PATCH V5 00/38] Live update: vfio and iommufd Cédric Le Goater
2025-06-10 17:39   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-06-11 14:25     ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-06-11 14:39       ` Steven Sistare
2025-06-12  7:23         ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-06-19 12:03           ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-06-20  5:46             ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-06-11 14:49       ` Peter Xu

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