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From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 3/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add ordering annotation types
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2025 07:59:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aHUbUZZ-8Z9kspds@Mac.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DBBP3E8PZ81U.2O0QHK1GQXKX2@kernel.org>

On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 12:10:46PM +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
> On Mon Jul 14, 2025 at 7:36 AM CEST, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > Preparation for atomic primitives. Instead of a suffix like _acquire, a
> > method parameter along with the corresponding generic parameter will be
> > used to specify the ordering of an atomic operations. For example,
> > atomic load() can be defined as:
> >
> > 	impl<T: ...> Atomic<T> {
> > 	    pub fn load<O: AcquireOrRelaxed>(&self, _o: O) -> T { ... }
> > 	}
> >
> > and acquire users would do:
> >
> > 	let r = x.load(Acquire);
> >
> > relaxed users:
> >
> > 	let r = x.load(Relaxed);
> >
> > doing the following:
> >
> > 	let r = x.load(Release);
> >
> > will cause a compiler error.
> >
> > Compared to suffixes, it's easier to tell what ordering variants an
> > operation has, and it also make it easier to unify the implementation of
> > all ordering variants in one method via generic. The `TYPE` associate
> > const is for generic function to pick up the particular implementation
> > specified by an ordering annotation.
> >
> > Reviewed-by: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > ---
> > Benno, please take a good and if you want to provide your Reviewed-by
> > for this one. I didn't apply your Reviewed-by because I used
> > `ordering::Any` instead of `AnyOrdering`, I think you're Ok with it [1],
> > but I could be wrong. Thanks!
> >
> > [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/DB8M91D7KIT4.14W69YK7108ND@kernel.org/
> 
> > +/// The trait bound for annotating operations that support any ordering.
> > +pub trait Any: internal::Sealed {
> 
> How about we just name this `Ordering`? Because that's what it is :)
> 

Seems OK to me, I then also followed Gary's suggestion:

	https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20250621121842.0c3ca452.gary@garyguo.net/

and dropped `RelaxedOnly` trait.

> That sadly means you can't do
> 
>     fn foo<Ordering: Ordering>() {}
>            --------  ^^^^^^^^ not a trait
>            |
>            found this type parameter
> 
> But you can still do
> 
>     fn foo<O: Ordering>(_: O) {}
> 
> If we don't have the ordering module public and instead re-export from

Keeping ordering mod public helps rustdoc readers to find the module and
read the module documentation (where is the best place to explain each
ordering), and also I made `Relaxed`, `Acquire`, `Release` and `Full`
refer to the module documentation in their doc, making `ordering` mod
private would cause rustdoc issues.

Regards,
Boqun

> atomic, you could also write:
> 
>     fn foo<Ordering: atomic::Ordering>(_: Ordering) {}
> 
> If you want it to be extra clear. What do you think?
> 
> ---
> Cheers,
> Benno
> 
> > +    /// Describes the exact memory ordering.
> > +    const TYPE: OrderingType;
> > +}

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-14 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-14  5:36 [PATCH v7 0/9] LKMM generic atomics in Rust Boqun Feng
2025-07-14  5:36 ` [PATCH v7 1/9] rust: Introduce atomic API helpers Boqun Feng
2025-07-16  9:23   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-16 12:36     ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-16 12:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-16 12:54       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-16 12:57         ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-16 13:04           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-16 12:56       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-14  5:36 ` [PATCH v7 2/9] rust: sync: Add basic atomic operation mapping framework Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 10:03   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14 13:42     ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 15:00       ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14 15:34         ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-14  5:36 ` [PATCH v7 3/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add ordering annotation types Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 10:10   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14 14:59     ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2025-07-14 15:16       ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14  5:36 ` [PATCH v7 4/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add generic atomics Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 10:30   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14 14:21     ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 14:30       ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 14:34       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-14 14:53         ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 15:16           ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14 15:05       ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14 15:32         ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-15  9:36           ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-15 13:14             ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-15 15:35               ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14  5:36 ` [PATCH v7 5/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add atomic {cmp,}xchg operations Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 10:56   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14  5:36 ` [PATCH v7 6/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add the framework of arithmetic operations Boqun Feng
2025-07-15 11:21   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-15 13:33     ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-15 15:45       ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-15 16:13         ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-15 18:39           ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-15 20:13             ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-16 10:25               ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-16 14:13                 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-16 15:36                   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-16 15:48                     ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-16 17:16                       ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-16 17:38                         ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-14  5:36 ` [PATCH v7 7/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add Atomic<u{32,64}> Boqun Feng
2025-07-14  5:36 ` [PATCH v7 8/9] rust: sync: Add memory barriers Boqun Feng
2025-07-14  5:36 ` [PATCH v7 9/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add Atomic<{usize,isize}> Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 11:06   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14 13:47     ` Boqun Feng

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