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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: anthony <antmbox@youngman.org.uk>
Cc: Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	colyli@kernel.org, hare@suse.de, tieren@fnnas.com,
	axboe@kernel.dk, tj@kernel.org, josef@toxicpanda.com,
	song@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, neil@brown.name,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	yi.zhang@huawei.com, yangerkun@huawei.com,
	johnny.chenyi@huawei.com, John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>,
	"yukuai (C)" <yukuai3@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 4/7] md/raid10: convert read/write to use bio_submit_split()
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 00:31:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aK60bmotWLT50qt5@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <835fe512-4cff-4130-8b67-d30b91d95099@youngman.org.uk>

On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 06:35:10PM +0100, anthony wrote:
> On 26/08/2025 10:14, Yu Kuai wrote:
> > > Umm, that's actually a red flag.  If a device guarantees atomic behavior
> > > it can't just fail it.  So I think REQ_ATOMIC should be disallowed
> > > for md raid with bad block tracking.
> > > 
> > 
> > I agree that do not look good, however, John explained while adding this
> > that user should retry and fallback without REQ_ATOMIC to make things
> > work as usual.
> 
> Whether a device promises atomic write is orthogonal to whether that write
> succeeds - it could fail for a whole host of reasons, so why can't "this is
> too big to be atomic" just be another reason for failing?

Too big to be atomic is a valid failure reason.  But the limit needs
to be documented in the queue limits beforehand.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-27  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-25  9:36 [PATCH RFC 0/7] block: fix disordered IO in the case recursive split Yu Kuai
2025-08-25  9:36 ` [PATCH RFC 1/7] block: export helper bio_submit_split() Yu Kuai
2025-08-25 10:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-26  0:51     ` Yu Kuai
2025-08-25  9:36 ` [PATCH RFC 2/7] md/raid0: convert raid0_handle_discard() to use bio_submit_split() Yu Kuai
2025-08-25 10:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-26  1:08     ` Yu Kuai
2025-08-26  7:54       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-26  9:11         ` Yu Kuai
2025-08-25  9:36 ` [PATCH RFC 3/7] md/raid1: convert " Yu Kuai
2025-08-25 10:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-26  1:09     ` Yu Kuai
2025-08-25  9:36 ` [PATCH RFC 4/7] md/raid10: convert read/write " Yu Kuai
2025-08-25 10:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-26  1:13     ` Yu Kuai
2025-08-26  7:55       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-26  9:14         ` Yu Kuai
2025-08-26 17:35           ` anthony
2025-08-27  7:31             ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-09-02  6:18               ` John Garry
2025-09-02  6:30                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-02  6:58                   ` John Garry
2025-09-02  8:25                     ` Yu Kuai
2025-09-02 14:46                       ` John Garry
2025-08-25  9:36 ` [PATCH RFC 5/7] md/raid5: convert " Yu Kuai
2025-08-25 11:00   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-26  1:15     ` Yu Kuai
2025-08-26  7:56       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-25  9:36 ` [PATCH RFC 6/7] md/md-linear: " Yu Kuai
2025-08-25  9:37 ` [PATCH RFC 7/7] block: fix disordered IO in the case recursive split Yu Kuai
2025-08-25 11:07   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-26  1:20     ` Yu Kuai

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