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From: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: fix KASAN build error due to p*d_populate_kernel()
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 10:11:08 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aKfDrKBaMc24cNgC@hyeyoo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3976ef5d-a959-408a-b538-7feba1f0ab7a@intel.com>

On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 10:36:12AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 8/21/25 04:57, Harry Yoo wrote:
> > However, {pgd,p4d}_populate_kernel() is defined as a function regardless
> > of the number of page table levels, so the compiler may not optimize
> > them away. In this case, the following linker error occurs:

Hi, thanks for taking a look, Dave!

First of all, this is a fix-up patch of a mm-hotfixes patch series that
fixes a bug (I should have explained that in the changelog) [1].

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20250818020206.4517-1-harry.yoo@oracle.com

I think we can continue discussing it and perhaps do that as part of
a follow-up series, because the current patch series need to be backported
to -stable and your suggestion to improve existing code doesn't require
-stable backports.

Does that sound fine?

> This part of the changelog confused me. I think it's focusing on the
> wrong thing.
> 
> The code that's triggering this is literally:
> 
> >                         pgd_populate(&init_mm, pgd,
> >                                         lm_alias(kasan_early_shadow_p4d));
> 
> It sure _looks_ like it's unconditionally referencing the
> 'kasan_early_shadow_p4d' symbol. I think it's wrong to hide that with
> macro magic and just assume that the macros won't reference it.
> 
> If a symbol isn't being defined, it shouldn't be referenced in C code.:q

A fair point, and that's what KASAN code has been doing for years.

> The right way to do it is to have an #ifdef in a header that avoids
> compiling in the reference to the symbol.

You mean defining some wrapper functions for p*d_populate_kernel() in
KASAN with different implementations based on ifdeffery?

Just to clarify, what should be the exact ifdeffery to cover these cases?
#if CONFIG_PGTABLE_LEVELS == 4 and 5, or
#ifdef __PAGETABLE_P4D_FOLDED and __PAGETABLE_PUD_FOLDED ?

I have no strong opinion on this, let's hear what KASAN folks think.

> But just changing the 'static inline' to a #define seems like a fragile
> hack to me.

At least that's what KASAN has relied on p*d_populate() to do...

-- 
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-22  1:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-18  2:02 [PATCH V5 mm-hotfixes 0/3] mm, x86: fix crash due to missing page table sync and make it harder to miss Harry Yoo
2025-08-18  2:02 ` [PATCH V5 mm-hotfixes 1/3] mm: move page table sync declarations to linux/pgtable.h Harry Yoo
2025-08-18  7:47   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-18  2:02 ` [PATCH V5 mm-hotfixes 2/3] mm: introduce and use {pgd,p4d}_populate_kernel() Harry Yoo
2025-08-18  7:48   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-18  9:02   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-18 10:41     ` Harry Yoo
2025-08-21  9:35   ` [PATCH] mm: fix KASAN build error due to p*d_populate_kernel() Harry Yoo
2025-08-21  9:38     ` kernel test robot
2025-08-21 10:10     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-21 10:42       ` Harry Yoo
2025-08-21 11:46         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-21 11:57     ` [PATCH v2] " Harry Yoo
2025-08-21 12:00       ` kernel test robot
2025-08-21 17:36       ` Dave Hansen
2025-08-22  1:11         ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2025-08-22 16:02           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2025-08-27  6:30             ` Harry Yoo
2025-08-22 17:08           ` Dave Hansen
2025-08-25  9:46             ` Andrey Ryabinin
2025-08-22  2:07   ` [PATCH v3] " Harry Yoo
2025-08-18  2:02 ` [PATCH V5 mm-hotfixes 3/3] x86/mm/64: define ARCH_PAGE_TABLE_SYNC_MASK and arch_sync_kernel_mappings() Harry Yoo
2025-08-18  7:49   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-18  7:50 ` [PATCH V5 mm-hotfixes 0/3] mm, x86: fix crash due to missing page table sync and make it harder to miss David Hildenbrand

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