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From: Sultan Alsawaf <sultan@kerneltoast.com>
To: "Du, Bin" <bin.du@amd.com>
Cc: mchehab@kernel.org, hverkuil@xs4all.nl,
	laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com,
	bryan.odonoghue@linaro.org, sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com,
	prabhakar.mahadev-lad.rj@bp.renesas.com,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	pratap.nirujogi@amd.com, benjamin.chan@amd.com, king.li@amd.com,
	gjorgji.rosikopulos@amd.com, Phil.Jawich@amd.com,
	Dominic.Antony@amd.com,
	Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>,
	Richard.Gong@amd.com, anson.tsao@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/8] Add AMD ISP4 driver
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 20:56:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aKfqVNk_WSEeBxlz@sultan-box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ed9deffd-296c-465b-ad8a-314ed0968390@amd.com>

On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 10:23:48AM +0800, Du, Bin wrote:
> On 8/14/2025 2:53 PM, Sultan Alsawaf wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 05:19:51PM +0800, Bin Du wrote:
> > > AMD ISP4 Key features:
> > > - Processes bayer raw data from the connected sensor and output them to different YUV formats
> > > - Downscale input image to different output image resolution
> > > - Pipeline to do image processing on the input image including demosaic, denoise, 3A, etc
> > 
> > BTW, another problem I have which I would love some help with: may I get the FW
> > commands for setting basic 3A parameters?
> > 
> > It seems like the default AE mode does frame-averaging, which is really
> > unsuitable for video calls on the webcam. My face is really underexposed as a
> > result during the daytime because there's a lot of ambient light in the
> > background.
> > 
> > The webcam on this laptop also has a very wide field of view, which makes my
> > face appear small and shows too much of the background. This also exacerbates
> > the AE problem.
> > 
> > I'm thinking CMD_ID_SET_ZOOM would fix the FOV problem, and then either
> > CMD_ID_AE_SET_MODE to change the AE mode or CMD_ID_AE_SET_REGION to set the AE
> > ROI would fix the exposure problem. What do you think?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Sultan
>
> Thanks Sultan for the suggestion, sorry for the late response because we
> spent some time internally to discuss the feasibility.

Thanks for looking into this!

> Yes, it's really good suggestion. Because current V4l2 doesn't have standard
> ioctl for like region setting, to support it, besides adding FW command, new
> customized ioctl also needs be added and no existing APP can benefit from
> it. So our idea is not to add them to our current upstream driver, but we
> would be really glad to help you to enable them locally with dedicated
> thread, suppose it can help to improve the IQ with correct input setting
> like the correct ROI region, but we aren't sure because we didn't do that
> before on Linux and would really expect your test result and feedback.

I'm happy to help develop this and even help write the code. :)

I think a lot of useful functionality can be put upstream just through V4L2,
like V4L2_CID_EXPOSURE_METERING to control the AE mode.

For advanced functions that don't have a standard V4L2 control, maybe we can set
some defaults in the driver to improve the experience for front-facing cameras,
i.e. webcams.

Depending on the features exposed by FW, maybe setting a ROI for AE isn't
necessary. Is it possible for the FW to do face detection and set 3A according
to the face landmarks/ROI?

Thanks,
Sultan

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-22  3:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-18  9:19 [PATCH v2 0/8] Add AMD ISP4 driver Bin Du
2025-06-18  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] media: platform: amd: Introduce amd isp4 capture driver Bin Du
2025-06-18 15:58   ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-19  7:46     ` Du, Bin
2025-06-19 13:00       ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-20  3:08         ` Du, Bin
2025-07-28  5:54   ` Sakari Ailus
2025-07-28  9:00     ` Du, Bin
2025-06-18  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] media: platform: amd: low level support for isp4 firmware Bin Du
2025-06-18 16:00   ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-19  7:53     ` Du, Bin
2025-07-28  5:57   ` Sakari Ailus
2025-07-28  9:24     ` Du, Bin
2025-06-18  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] media: platform: amd: Add helpers to configure isp4 mipi phy Bin Du
2025-07-28  6:33   ` Sakari Ailus
2025-08-05  9:53     ` Du, Bin
2025-08-05 10:53       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-06  9:56         ` Du, Bin
2025-08-05 10:39     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-06  9:45       ` Du, Bin
2025-07-28  7:28   ` Sakari Ailus
2025-07-31  9:31     ` Du, Bin
2025-06-18  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] media: platform: amd: Add isp4 fw and hw interface Bin Du
2025-06-18 16:17   ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-19  9:58     ` Du, Bin
2025-06-19 15:11       ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-20  3:32         ` Du, Bin
2025-07-28  7:23   ` Sakari Ailus
2025-07-29  9:12     ` Du, Bin
2025-08-11 11:46       ` Sakari Ailus
2025-08-11 12:31         ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-12  3:36           ` Du, Bin
2025-08-12  7:34             ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-12  8:08               ` Du, Bin
2025-08-12  8:20               ` Sakari Ailus
2025-08-12 10:04                 ` Du, Bin
2025-08-12  2:44         ` Du, Bin
2025-06-18  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] media: platform: amd: isp4 subdev and firmware loading handling added Bin Du
2025-06-18 16:35   ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-20  9:31     ` Du, Bin
2025-07-06 20:55       ` Mario Limonciello
2025-07-07  6:22         ` Du, Bin
2025-07-25  1:35   ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-25  9:03     ` Du, Bin
2025-06-18  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] media: platform: amd: isp4 video node and buffers " Bin Du
2025-07-23 17:55   ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-24  5:14     ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-25  9:05       ` Du, Bin
2025-07-25  9:22     ` Du, Bin
2025-07-26 21:41       ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-26 21:50         ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-29  6:12           ` Du, Bin
2025-07-29  6:08         ` Du, Bin
2025-07-28  7:04   ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-29  7:43     ` Du, Bin
2025-07-31  0:34       ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-31  9:45         ` Du, Bin
2025-08-11  6:02         ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-08-11  9:05           ` Du, Bin
2025-08-12  5:51             ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-08-12  6:33               ` Du, Bin
2025-08-13  9:42                 ` Du, Bin
2025-08-14  6:37                   ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-06-18  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] media: platform: amd: isp4 debug fs logging and more descriptive errors Bin Du
2025-06-18  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] Documentation: add documentation of AMD isp 4 driver Bin Du
2025-08-05 11:37   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-12  1:36     ` Du, Bin
2025-08-12 13:42       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-22  2:28         ` Du, Bin
2025-08-20 12:42       ` Sakari Ailus
2025-08-22  2:20         ` Du, Bin
2025-09-22  6:24           ` Sakari Ailus
2025-09-22  9:19             ` Du, Bin
2025-07-23 18:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] Add AMD ISP4 driver Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-25 10:22   ` Du, Bin
2025-07-26 22:31     ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-29  3:32       ` Du, Bin
2025-07-29  7:42         ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-29  7:45           ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-29 10:13             ` Du, Bin
2025-07-30  5:38               ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-30  9:53                 ` Du, Bin
2025-07-31  0:30                   ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-31 10:04                     ` Du, Bin
2025-08-04  3:32                       ` Du, Bin
2025-08-04  4:25                         ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-08-08  9:11                           ` Du, Bin
2025-08-11  5:49                             ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-08-11  8:35                               ` Du, Bin
2025-08-11 21:48                                 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-08-11 22:17                                   ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-08-12  2:02                                     ` Du, Bin
2025-08-14  6:53 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-08-22  2:23   ` Du, Bin
2025-08-22  3:56     ` Sultan Alsawaf [this message]
2025-08-27 10:30       ` Du, Bin
2025-08-28  5:50         ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-09-02  2:08           ` Du, Bin

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