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From: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	broonie@kernel.org, maz@kernel.org, oliver.upton@linux.dev,
	joey.gouly@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com, ardb@kernel.org,
	scott@os.amperecomputing.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com,
	yuzenghui@huawei.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND v7 4/6] arm64: futex: refactor futex atomic operation
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2025 15:15:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMlxCB1Ob22kagbQ@e129823.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aMlvDVfeztaVyOnL@J2N7QTR9R3.cambridge.arm.com>

On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 03:07:09PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 02:58:16PM +0100, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > [...]
> > > > I think it's enough to use usafe_get_user() instead of get_user() in here
> > > > since when FEAT_LSUI enabled, it doeesn't need to call
> > > > uaccess_ttbr0_enable()/disable().
> > >
> > > Regardless of uaccess_ttbr0_enable() and uaccess_ttbr0_disable()
> > > specifically, API-wise unsafe_get_user() is only supposed to be called
> > > between user_access_begin() and user_access_end(), and there's some
> > > stuff we probably want to add there (e.g. might_fault(), which
> > > unsafe_get_user() lacks today).
> > >
> > > Do we call those?
> >
> > Yes when you're available.
> > As you mention, the difference seems might_fault(),
> > But I'm not sure whether that would be a reason to validate to use
> > get_user() instead of unsafe_get_user() taking a increase of instruction
> > of "nop" -- uaccess_ttbr0_enable()/disable() in LSUI
> > except the reason for DEUBG purpose.
>
> I think the practical impact of those NOPs is going to be neglible, and
> not worth optimizing for unless/until we have data demonstrating
> otherwise.
>
> If we want to strictly avoid those NOPs, I think that we should do a
> more general cleanup, and e.g. have variants of user_access_begin() and
> user_access_end() that do not mess with TTBR0. I don't think we need to
> do that for this series.
>
> For now, I think that you should either:
>
> * Use get_user().
>
> * Use user_access_begin() .. user_access_end() wrapping both
>   unsafe_get_user() and the user cmpxchg.

Understood. I'll use get_user() in this series after
getting some more comments from other about C version which I sent
before your suggestion (Sorry to miss your email before I sent).

Thanks :D

--
Sincerely,
Yeoreum Yun

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-16 14:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-16 15:19 [PATCH RESEND v7 0/6] support FEAT_LSUI and apply it on futex atomic ops Yeoreum Yun
2025-08-16 15:19 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 1/6] arm64: cpufeature: add FEAT_LSUI Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 16:12   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-08-16 15:19 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 2/6] KVM: arm64: expose FEAT_LSUI to guest Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 16:25   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-08-16 15:19 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 3/6] arm64: Kconfig: add LSUI Kconfig Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 16:24   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 10:42     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-15 11:32       ` Will Deacon
2025-09-15 11:41         ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-08-16 15:19 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 4/6] arm64: futex: refactor futex atomic operation Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-11 15:38   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-11 16:04     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 16:44   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-12 17:01     ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 10:39     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 16:53   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 10:32     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-15 19:40       ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 20:35         ` Will Deacon
2025-09-16  7:02           ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-16  9:15             ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16  9:24               ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 10:02             ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 10:16               ` Will Deacon
2025-09-16 12:50                 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-17  9:32                   ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 12:47               ` Mark Rutland
2025-09-16 13:27                 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 13:45                   ` Mark Rutland
2025-09-16 13:58                     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 14:07                       ` Mark Rutland
2025-09-16 14:15                         ` Yeoreum Yun [this message]
2025-09-15 22:34         ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-16 12:53           ` Catalin Marinas
2025-08-16 15:19 ` [PATCH v7 RESEND 5/6] arm64: futex: small optimisation for __llsc_futex_atomic_set() Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-11 15:28   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-11 16:19     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 16:36       ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 10:41         ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-08-16 15:19 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 6/6] arm64: futex: support futex with FEAT_LSUI Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-11 15:22   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-11 16:45     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 17:16     ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15  9:15       ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-12 17:09   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15  8:24     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-01 10:06 ` [PATCH RESEND v7 0/6] support FEAT_LSUI and apply it on futex atomic ops Yeoreum Yun
2025-09-11 15:09 ` Will Deacon
2025-09-11 16:22   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-15 20:37     ` Will Deacon

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