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From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: "Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen" <ast@fiberby.net>,
	"Donald Hunter" <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
	"Jacob Keller" <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	wireguard@lists.zx2c4.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Jordan Rife" <jordan@jrife.io>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 11/11] wireguard: netlink: generate netlink code
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2025 01:54:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aR5m174O7pklKrMR@zx2c4.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251118170045.0c2e24f7@kernel.org>

On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 05:00:45PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2025 23:51:37 +0100 Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> > I mean, there is *tons* of generated code in the kernel. This is how it
> > works. And you *want the output to change when the tool changes*. That's
> > literally the point. It would be like if you wanted to check in all the
> > .o files, in case the compiler started generating different output, or
> > if you wanted the objtool output or anything else to be checked in. And
> > sheerly from a git perspective, it seems outrageous to touch a zillion
> > files every time the ynl code changes. Rather, the fact that it's
> > generated on the fly ensures that the ynl generator stays correctly
> > implemented. It's the best way to keep that code from rotting.
> 
> CI checks validate that the files are up to date.
> There has been no churn to the kernel side of the generated code.
> Let's be practical.

Okay, it sounds like neither of you want to do this. Darn. I really hate
having generated artifacts laying around that can be created efficiently
at compile time. But okay, so it goes. I guess we'll do that.

I would like to ask two things, then, which may or may not be possible:

1) Can we put this in drivers/net/wireguard/generated/netlink.{c.h}
   And then in the Makefile, do `wireguard-y += netlink.o generated/netlink.o`
   on one line like that. I prefer this to keeping it in the same
   directory with the awkward -gen suffix.

2) In the header of each generated file, automatically write out the
   command that was used to generate it. Here's an example of this good
   habit from Go: https://github.com/golang/go/blob/master/src/syscall/zsyscall_linux_amd64.go

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-20  0:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-05 18:32 [PATCH net-next v3 00/11] wireguard: netlink: ynl conversion Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-05 18:32 ` [PATCH net-next v3 01/11] wireguard: netlink: validate nested arrays in policy Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-05 18:32 ` [PATCH net-next v3 02/11] wireguard: netlink: use WG_KEY_LEN in policies Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-05 18:32 ` [PATCH net-next v3 03/11] wireguard: netlink: enable strict genetlink validation Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-18 15:15   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-18 17:10   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-26 16:24     ` Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-26 16:26       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-05 18:32 ` [PATCH net-next v3 04/11] netlink: specs: add specification for wireguard Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-18  2:15   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-18 12:08     ` Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-18 15:07       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-18 21:59         ` Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-18 22:52           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-19  0:50             ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-19 19:19               ` Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-19 19:22                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-19 19:47                   ` Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-19 20:01                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-20  2:27                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-05 18:32 ` [PATCH net-next v3 05/11] uapi: wireguard: move enum wg_cmd Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-05 18:32 ` [PATCH net-next v3 06/11] uapi: wireguard: move flag enums Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-18 15:10   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-05 18:32 ` [PATCH net-next v3 07/11] uapi: wireguard: generate header with ynl-gen Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-18 15:17   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-19  0:53     ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-20  0:55       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-05 18:32 ` [PATCH net-next v3 08/11] tools: ynl: add sample for wireguard Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-18 15:20   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-18 17:16     ` Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-18 17:17       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-05 18:32 ` [PATCH net-next v3 09/11] wireguard: netlink: convert to split ops Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-05 18:32 ` [PATCH net-next v3 10/11] wireguard: netlink: rename netlink handlers Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-05 18:32 ` [PATCH net-next v3 11/11] wireguard: netlink: generate netlink code Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-18 15:15   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-18 16:57     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-18 22:23     ` Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-18 22:51       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-19  1:00         ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-20  0:54           ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2025-11-20  2:44             ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-20  2:46               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-20  3:19                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-20 19:49             ` Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen
2025-11-11  2:07 ` [PATCH net-next v3 00/11] wireguard: netlink: ynl conversion Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-12  3:59   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-18  0:14     ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-18  0:43       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-18  0:56         ` Jakub Kicinski

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